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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    so let me get this straight.

    we shouldn't have to prove we are US citizens when voting for the leaders of our country..... but we need to prove we are upstanding , law abiding, mentally healthy, people ....to simply purchase a firearm.

    ok then.

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    This "argument" strikes me as a silly lie ..
    What "struck" you was that truth hurts.

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    I honestly don't get the controversy. Can't prove citizenship, can't vote.
    I recall a case where a birth certificate bound decades ago in a state owned and controlled book wasn't found sufficient to prove citizenship.
    So again, what documents are sufficient to prove citizenship?

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    It was a comparison demonstrating the hypocrisy of the political left on the issue discussed in THIS thread. I am not responsible for those who don't read or refuse to comprehend the connection.
    What about the hypocrisy of the right that calls needing ID to buy a gun an infringement, but needing ID to vote is fine.

    As far as I'm concerned, go ahead and require ID for both. ID laws will have the same effect on electoral fraud that permits have had on criminals getting guns. To the case at hand, the gentleman in question is a naturalized citizen, but was not allowed to register to vote because of what Arizona required of him. A naturalized citizen should be able to register easily, IMO.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    In order to vote in a federal election, you should have to be a citizen. That you have to prove it at some point is obvious.

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    What about the hypocrisy of the right that calls needing ID to buy a gun an infringement, but needing ID to vote is fine.

    As far as I'm concerned, go ahead and require ID for both. ID laws will have the same effect on electoral fraud that permits have had on criminals getting guns. To the case at hand, the gentleman in question is a naturalized citizen, but was not allowed to register to vote because of what Arizona required of him. A naturalized citizen should be able to register easily, IMO.
    Theres a law against prohibiting the bearing of arms in the constitution. There is no individual right to vote. The citizens gave that power to the state legislatures and federal govt.

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    so let me get this straight.

    we shouldn't have to prove we are US citizens when voting for the leaders of our country..... but we need to prove we are upstanding , law abiding, mentally healthy, people ....to simply purchase a firearm.

    ok then.
    Well, there are those who certainly don't have a problem with it the other way.

    Read about the case at hand. The man IS a citizen. His registration was refused because it wasn't in the computer. Granted, it was the same day, but why should a naturalized citizen have trouble registering to vote?


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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    In order to vote in a federal election, you should have to be a citizen. That you have to prove it at some point is obvious.
    What is acceptable proof? Who is the judge that decides if the proof is sufficient?
    Again: I recall a case where a birth certificate bound decades ago in a state owned and controlled book isn't sufficient to prove citizenship.

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    What about the hypocrisy of the right that calls needing ID to buy a gun an infringement, but needing ID to vote is fine.

    As far as I'm concerned, go ahead and require ID for both. ID laws will have the same effect on electoral fraud that permits have had on criminals getting guns. To the case at hand, the gentleman in question is a naturalized citizen, but was not allowed to register to vote because of what Arizona required of him. A naturalized citizen should be able to register easily, IMO.
    Hypocrisy abounds. I agree with your assessment. A naturalized citizen should be given whatever ID is required upon receiving citizenship. There is no need to tie such things to another document in that case. BTW, I've never purchased a fire arm without providing ID, and I, for one, have no problem with that.

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Theres a law against prohibiting the bearing of arms in the constitution. There is no individual right to vote. The citizens gave that power to the state legislatures and federal govt.
    I love when the right goes off on "there's no right to vote." I guess it would be OK if you were disenfranchised since it's not in the Constitution.


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