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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    I don't think it's any more necessary to prove you're a citizen when you register to vote than it is to prove you have an account when you go to the bank to take out money. If banks trust you then surely the government can.

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by shiang View Post
    Then I re-illiterate, how many of those people actually go to the polls to vote?

    Non-issue


    I think earlier I detailed how people without ID can still vote by having a registered voter swear on their behalf. I was a scrutineer one election where we have 24 polls. We never got one swear in vote, so yeah, that was my point, the argument it is voter suppression is hollow.

    I suspect, as do some others, there are some key areas where non registered make a difference and that is the real basis of the argument.
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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    It is, but I am willing to let Obama replace Ruthy. Who knows? He could end up screwing up, and nominate a justice that would actually vote with the right on something. Once. Maybe.
    The point is - she doesn't trust him to name a good replacement.

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Yes it is the same here.

    I was a scrutineer in one election. I was at the voting station all day. I was wearing an official Elections Canada ID tag around my neck. But, when I went to vote I still had to show my voter registration card and photo ID.

    I don't think its wrong. Hey, we have one party here, the socialist New Democratic Party who used to brag "vote early, vote often." And "my dad never voted NDP in his life, but he does now."

    BTW, we vote my making a pencil mark on a piece of paper.
    And you have one tenth the population we do. There are more people in California than in all of Canada. Btw, just noting it's a bit easier to keep track with far fewer people, not opposing requiring ID.

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    I agree that you should have to prove your citizenship, but here's a little more context to what the case is:

    Can States Go Beyond Federal Law On Voter Registration? : NPR

    The lead plaintiff in this case is Jesus Gonzalez, a Yuma, Ariz., school janitor who registered to vote, or tried to, on the day he became a U.S. citizen. His application was twice rejected by state officials. The first time was because, following instructions on the state form, he supplied his naturalization number, but as it turned out, there was no way for the state to verify that number with the Department of Homeland Security. On his second try, Gonzalez entered his driver's license number, but, as it turned out, because he had obtained his license when he was a legal resident but prior to becoming a citizen, unbeknownst to him, he was flagged in the state's files as a "foreigner."
    So the guy is a citizen, but they wouldn't accept his naturalization because it wasn't in the computer yet. He should have been eligible to register right after taking the citizenship oath. It should be easy for a newly naturalized citizen to register.


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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    If you consider the USA to be the electoral public restroom of the civilized world, then no, it is shouldn't be required for people to prove that they are citizens of the US before voting. Why not go further, scrap the requirement all together. Electoral right should not be dependent on citizenship and let the entire bloody world vote on who the next US president be.

    Seriously, is this even up for debate? This forum, as far as I am aware, is debatepolitics. Not debate stupid ideas that some people have about how to make things worse than they already are.

    Electoral rights come with citizenship. This is the standard in every country. No citizenship, no electoral rights. And electoral rights are privilege, and you should lose them if you perform certain crimes (voter fraud or vote bribery) or are mentally damaged (handicapped, retarded, insane).

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    I dont beleive there are busloads of people riding around on election day voting. But I dont beleive anyone should be able to vote or register to vote without ID or swearing to be a legal voter and leave fingerprits. Then if they vote illegally prosecute to the fullest. I think both sides of this issue are much ado about very very little.
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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Other or no vote !
    I'd be offended if I had to prove my citizenship !
    But, I cannot remember what proof I had to give in order to vote.
    IMO, we do need national citizen ID. And if this is not abused, its a good idea..
    I do fear the abuse, particularly from the "right".
    All people in America should be citizens....illegal or not...
    So, lets stop with this silliness, and fences and Berlin Walls.
    This is America, NOT Amerika !

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    It's not about sneaky foreigners voting illegally, it's about Dems pandering and encouraging illegal votes for the Dems personal benefits.

    Multi-votes could be a separate poll.
    This "argument" strikes me as a silly lie ..

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Ah, its what they do in every country I've lived in.

    Why wouldn't you if it's clearly stated in the constitution that only US citizens can vote?
    As I recall, there was NO VOTING for a POTUS when the Constitution was passed..
    I'll have to post the constitution and do a search..
    may be interesting...
    Our Constitution and the Bible are so similar..

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