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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good evening, Humbolt.

    Judging from the ages of some of them, they probably wonder WHY they even bother struggling! As for the rest of them.....:
    Evening to you, as well. I imagine Ruth Ginsberg has to chase her mirror around each morning. Oh, that's cruel. She's not well, which is a damn good reason for her to leave, in my opinion. JUst like Rhenquist, with all those drugs he required. What the hell was he doing serving? I attended the SC as an expert witness back in the 80's. I was tremendously impressed with the intelligence of those folks, but some of them should leave when the writing is on the wall that their run is over. That they continue to stay on because of political reasons is in itself reason enough that they should leave.

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Ah, its what they do in every country I've lived in.

    Why wouldn't you if it's clearly stated in the constitution that only US citizens can vote?
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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Evening to you, as well. I imagine Ruth Ginsberg has to chase her mirror around each morning. Oh, that's cruel. She's not well, which is a damn good reason for her to leave, in my opinion. JUst like Rhenquist, with all those drugs he required. What the hell was he doing serving? I attended the SC as an expert witness back in the 80's. I was tremendously impressed with the intelligence of those folks, but some of them should leave when the writing is on the wall that their run is over. That they continue to stay on because of political reasons is in itself reason enough that they should leave.
    True that, but the POTUS gets to appoint anyone new. That seems to be a concern for many people....

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    True that, but the POTUS gets to appoint anyone new. That seems to be a concern for many people....
    It is, but I am willing to let Obama replace Ruthy. Who knows? He could end up screwing up, and nominate a justice that would actually vote with the right on something. Once. Maybe.

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Ah, its what they do in every country I've lived in.

    Why wouldn't you if it's clearly stated in the constitution that only US citizens can vote?
    Well, I've got three words for all those people - especially conservatives and/or libertarians - who think one should "prove" citizenship when you register to vote:

    NATIONAL IDENTITY DOCUMENT.

    To insure accuracy, there will have to be some usable document for "proof." Birth certificates won't work for naturalized citizens or the many people whose birth wasn't recorded. Drivers' licenses are issued to "green card" holders. Social Security cards are easily forged, and were never intened as an identity document, and passports are both expensive and hardly common in the general public.

    So if you really want people to "prove" they are citizens, you'll need a National Identify Card. Just like the ones issued in "every other country I lived in" for those who are familiar with, for instance, Cuba, North Korea and China. Of course, the NID is also a bugaboo of the right, which is understandably concerned that a NID becomes a way to track citizens. It also makes it possible to identify non-citizens, whether for benign reasons or reasons that aren't so nice.

    All other reasons to say this is a really stupid idea - making people "prove" their citizenship - sort of pale beside this one.

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Anyone wanna show us some tangible evidence of widespread voter fraud?
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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Anyone wanna show us some tangible evidence of widespread voter fraud?
    I dunno. I suspect a lot of frauds voted, if that's any help. I know Obama did.

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    Well, I've got three words for all those people - especially conservatives and/or libertarians - who think one should "prove" citizenship when you register to vote:

    NATIONAL IDENTITY DOCUMENT.

    To insure accuracy, there will have to be some usable document for "proof." Birth certificates won't work for naturalized citizens or the many people whose birth wasn't recorded. Drivers' licenses are issued to "green card" holders. Social Security cards are easily forged, and were never intened as an identity document, and passports are both expensive and hardly common in the general public.

    So if you really want people to "prove" they are citizens, you'll need a National Identify Card. Just like the ones issued in "every other country I lived in" for those who are familiar with, for instance, Cuba, North Korea and China. Of course, the NID is also a bugaboo of the right, which is understandably concerned that a NID becomes a way to track citizens. It also makes it possible to identify non-citizens, whether for benign reasons or reasons that aren't so nice.

    All other reasons to say this is a really stupid idea - making people "prove" their citizenship - sort of pale beside this one.
    Canada seems to struggle through without one.

    I guess its because they are smart enough to issue citizenship cards to naturalized citizens. If you guys don't, you could try that.
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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    I have to show picture ID when I exercise other rights, (2A for instance). So, I don't find it troubling at all that I should show pic ID to vote...

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    Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Canada seems to struggle through without one.

    I guess its because they are smart enough to issue citizenship cards to naturalized citizens. If you guys don't, you could try that.
    It's been suggested, but nothing ever happens. Too many people think it reeks of total government control, I guess.

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