View Poll Results: Is today's CORPORATISM any different from King George III?

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  • No!

    4 25.00%
  • There is no comparison!

    2 12.50%
  • Corporatism is Fascism in disguise!

    5 31.25%
  • Corporatism is a wonderful thing!

    1 6.25%
  • Corporate Banksters have replaced King George!

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Thread: Putting Corporations in their place.

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    Putting Corporations in their place.

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    "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country...corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war."
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    " Corporations have taken over the government and turned it against its own people."
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    "Wait, back up a minute. Corporations? What corporations? Each colony formed by King George III in North America was a chartered corporation. That is how they were governed remotely from across the Atlantic Ocean. Governors of these colonies were appointed by the king. He vested in them a chip off the block of his sovereignty. Their job was not to be explorers, or to create communities of happy people. Their job was to make a profit for the monarch by turning natural resources into the coin of the realm. Nothing more, and nothing less."
    Didn't these Corporations work for the Bank of England, also King George III's Family Bank?

    What is different today?

    Is it Corporatism or Capitalism?


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    Re: Putting Corporations in their place.

    I always laugh a little when people criticize corporations or businesses by saying something like, "they only care about making money." There's a term for corporations that don't turn a profit - bankrupt.

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    Re: Putting Corporations in their place.

    The issue is not about changing the mandate of corporations. It's about the ludicrous amount of power we allow corporations to have in society and lawmaking.
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    Re: Putting Corporations in their place.

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I always laugh a little when people criticize corporations or businesses by saying something like, "they only care about making money." There's a term for corporations that don't turn a profit - bankrupt.

    I don't believe anyone criticized corporations for making money, but for political excess. Corporations are not people.

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    Re: Putting Corporations in their place.

    It seems strange that Liberals would dislike corporations.

    Who else would hire them? Small businesses avoid Obama Supporters like the plague they are, while corporations, afraid of running afoul of the government or the Jessie Jackson extortion types, have outreach efforts for the Liberals and pretend they have something to contribute, corporations promote them regardless of their silly rhetoric and corporations allow them to obtain an income.

    The relationship of the loons with corporations is very similar to their relationship to America, the country they couldn't exist without.

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    Re: Putting Corporations in their place.

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I always laugh a little when people criticize corporations or businesses by saying something like, "they only care about making money." There's a term for corporations that don't turn a profit - bankrupt.
    The reason you laugh is because you miss the point. We don't want to stop profit. We want to stop those who make profit from dominating politics. There is a difference, and it is an important one, obviously. At least I hope it is obvious to you. It would be unfortunate if it wasn't, and you were still laughing.
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    Re: Putting Corporations in their place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    It seems strange that Liberals would dislike corporations.

    Who else would hire them? Small businesses avoid Obama Supporters like the plague they are, while corporations, afraid of running afoul of the government or the Jessie Jackson extortion types, have outreach efforts for the Liberals and pretend they have something to contribute, corporations promote them regardless of their silly rhetoric and corporations allow them to obtain an income.

    The relationship of the loons with corporations is very similar to their relationship to America, the country they couldn't exist without.
    I live in the boonies. I don't need even one Corporation. The point is that the Country doesn't need Corporations that are "too big to fail" and have accumulated overreaching political powers. If you like the big banksters up your rectum, that's on you. As for me, I'd prefer hemmhroids.

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    Re: Putting Corporations in their place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    The reason you laugh is because you miss the point. We don't want to stop profit. We want to stop those who make profit from dominating politics. There is a difference, and it is an important one, obviously. At least I hope it is obvious to you. It would be unfortunate if it wasn't, and you were still laughing.
    Well why don't you let the rest of us know who you'd allow to participate in politics?

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    Re: Putting Corporations in their place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    The reason you laugh is because you miss the point. We don't want to stop profit. We want to stop those who make profit from dominating politics. There is a difference, and it is an important one, obviously. At least I hope it is obvious to you. It would be unfortunate if it wasn't, and you were still laughing.
    If that's true, then why haven't liberals fought for campaign finance reform? That's all it would take, after all.
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    Re: Putting Corporations in their place.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I don't believe anyone criticized corporations for making money, but for political excess. Corporations are not people.
    Really? So you're fine with corporations making as much money as legally possible?

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