View Poll Results: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

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  • Yes. Having children is a moral obligation to God/society/family/etc.

    9 3.93%
  • No, they are free not to have children. They don't have to answer to anybody

    161 70.31%
  • Not if they have reproductive problems.

    2 0.87%
  • Yes, even if they have reproductive problems. They can adopt, you know.

    1 0.44%
  • They should get a medal for lowering world population.

    44 19.21%
  • Other

    10 4.37%
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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    We should try pumping the right things into Africa.
    This is not difficult.
    Just talk with the people..
    Ask - "what do you need" ?..
    They may say "nothing" , just leave us be...
    But, in order to determine this, we must ask.
    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    We pump billions of pounds into Africa etc..nothing changes..we are still faced with dying and sick children..as a taxpayer here..I would like a breakdown of where these billions of pounds have gone..War lords??..Greasing the palms of big businessmen??

    To be sure..Female contraception is the last thing on the list..

    African men have a code..If it is willing (or not) screw it..

    Africa is rife with AIDS..and it's children..

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    We should try pumping the right things into Africa.
    This is not difficult.
    Just talk with the people..
    Ask - "what do you need" ?..
    They may say "nothing" , just leave us be...
    But, in order to determine this, we must ask.
    The only thing we are pumping into Africa..is greasing the palms of the fat dictators so we can pillage their land..

    Women come much lower down in the scale...

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    Are people inferior who adopt? Hell no.
    Absolutely not. In some ways, they are performing more of a public service than people who reproduce.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Many couples don't have children for various reasons. Should they be considered inferior in society?
    why would we want people who DO NOT want to have children to then have what they do not want

    if we could only get those who cannot support their own children not to have them in the first place
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    Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    No, just the tube that leads them into the blood chamber. The ova are still there. They just wander off to die somewhere in my abdominal cavity.
    I thought all tubals were potentially reversible but that success rate varied with type of tubal. At that's what the doc told my wife after she had hers - which was after we had two children. At any rate there's in vitro should you change your mind - which is quite possible, a lot of what I believed and cared about at 23 was discarded in the ensuing 30 years.

    On the original question of course they aren't inferior.
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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    IMO, those who adopt are "superior", BUT, we cannot overdo this inferior/superior thing...Best to be slightly judgmental..
    Damn straight we're superior...all of my savings and then some, but I wouldn't give them up for anything.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Many couples don't have children for various reasons. Should they be considered inferior in society?
    Oh gosh. I just consider a couple for what I observe about how well they are making things work for them. For me it's not how they meet my standards. I wonder what kind of people have standards for other couples?

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I thought all tubals were potentially reversible but that success rate varied with type of tubal. At that's what the doc told my wife after she had hers - which was after we had two children. At any rate there's in vitro should you change your mind - which is quite possible, a lot of what I believed and cared about at 23 was discarded in the ensuing 30 years.

    On the original question of course they aren't inferior.
    They are *potentially,* in the same way that a tattoo is *potentially* fully removable, if you have JUST the right skin tone, EXACTLY the right colors in the ink, and the artist laid it in JUST right. However, you shouldn't bank on it. Most likely, you'll have a hard time getting it all out. And most likely, you'll have a hard time reversing a tubal -- especially the type I had. And that's exactly why I got it.

    I don't know why I would torture my ovary just so I could conceive a child who has a high risk of a million different birth defects. If I ever suffer from a total personality change after some kind of head injury and decide I'd like to parent, I would adopt one of the millions of unwanted children who already exist. Or just, ya know, get a cat.

    But I find that to be a profoundly unlikely scenario.

    Not wanting to parent isn't a "belief." It is something about my personality, like the fact that I am introverted, or the fact that I am artistic. It is something I knew about myself very early in my life -- even before I understood that reproducing is actually optional. And you know absolutely nothing about me.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    We pump billions of pounds into Africa etc..nothing changes..we are still faced with dying and sick children..as a taxpayer here..I would like a breakdown of where these billions of pounds have gone..War lords??..Greasing the palms of big businessmen??

    To be sure..Female contraception is the last thing on the list..

    African men have a code..If it is willing (or not) screw it..

    Africa is rife with AIDS..and it's children..
    You're assuming I think throwing money at it is the best way to solve problems. I don't. I think it actually makes their economies weaker in the long run.

    Contraception is not the last thing on the list. It is tied for first place with breaking down the rape culture.

    People who cannot protect their bodies cannot improve their circumstances.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    all things being equal they contribute less to society. "inferior" would be a word that would require qualifications, however.
    How do they contribute less to society? Have some stats for us on that? What is important to society?
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