Yes. Having children is a moral obligation to God/society/family/etc.
No, they are free not to have children. They don't have to answer to anybody
Not if they have reproductive problems.
Yes, even if they have reproductive problems. They can adopt, you know.
They should get a medal for lowering world population.
I don't know.
The only problem I see is someone following your line of reasoning, and even if only with a 50-50 chance of being proved wrong...we still have the other 50% having kids in a sadly mistaken decision. And it's the kids that will suffer.
So *my opinion* is mind your own business and let people make and live with their own decisions instead of trying to influence them to 'try it, you might like it!' when kid's lives are the ones that get 'spit out, yuck!'
I'm not sure if that was your intent, if not I apologize but it sounded like what you were promoting.
message that women should rack up large sexual partner counts:
Sluthood isn’t just a choice we should let women make because women should be free to make even “bad” choices. It’s a choice we should all have access to because it has the potential to be liberating. Healing. Soul-fulfilling. I’m telling you this because sluthood saved me, in a small but life-altering way, and I want it to be available to you if you ever think it could save you, too. Or if you want it for any other reason at all.
And mission accomplished as one of the readers responds:
AMAZING writing. I really appreciate having stumbled upon this, as it has really made me wonder about my own life — I am 22 and have been in a serious relationship for two years. He’s amazing, and I think he might be “the One,” but he is the only man I have ever slept with. This bothers me because I am quite confident that if we were to ever break up, I would undoubtedly embrace “sluthood” — and I really feel like I may be missing out on something that is important for defining who I am. I discovered who I am sexually through my relationship with him. But I love him to bits so this is just something I will need to wonder about for the rest of my life? *Sigh* if only I had slutted it up earlier.
Her inclination leads her in one direction but the propaganda she reads leads her in another.
So the cultural poison pushed by deranged feminists can lead women down the wrong path and against what their inclinations and feelings suggest is the right path. When we look at past generations of women we see that too many of them are now furious because they've been lied to and their fertility window has shut.
I don't know whether to feel sad for these women or to feel that they should be contenders for the next Darwin Award. The New York Times reports:
FORTY may be the new 30, but try telling that to your ovaries.
With long brown hair and come-hither curves, Melissa Foss looks — and feels — fabulous at 41. “I’ve spent hours of my life and a lot of money making sure I was healthy, and that my hair was shiny, my teeth were white and my complexion clear,” said Ms. Foss, a magazine editor in New York City.
So when it came to conceiving a child with her husband, a marketing executive, Ms. Foss wasn’t at all worried. After all, she noted, those same traits of youth and beauty “are all the hallmarks of fertility.”
Fifteen unsuccessful rounds of in vitro fertilization later, Ms. Foss now realizes that appearances can be deceiving. “I’d based a lot of my self-worth on looking young and fertile, and to have that not be the case was really depressing and shocking,” she said. The couple are now trying to have a baby with the help of a surrogate and a donor egg. .
“I watch what I eat, I don’t drink, I take extremely good care of myself, and I come from a very fertile family,” said Fruzsina Keehn, 45, a designer of high-end jewelry in San Francisco and New York, who has tried to conceive with the help of in vitro fertilization eight times in the last two years. Later this month, she will try once again with a donor egg. “Everyone in my life told me how young I looked for my age,” she said. “I assumed it was the same on the inside as it was on the outside.”
When I look at the misinformation and societal damage that arises from living a life based on a false view of reality and I see more damage arising from the spread of the feminist career woman ideal, as exemplified by these women, and the Sex in the City ethos, than I do from all of the misinformation arising from Religious Creationism.
Then to add icing onto the cake, when physicians try to undermine the feminist zeitgeist this is what they get for their trouble - TIME Magazine reports:
But even as doctors began to try to get the word out, they ran into resistance of all kinds.
In hopes of raising women's awareness, asrm [American Society for Reproductive Medicine] launched a modest $60,000 ad campaign last fall, with posters and brochures warning that factors like smoking, weight problems and sexually transmitted infections can all harm fertility. But the furor came with the fourth warning, a picture of a baby bottle shaped like an hourglass: "Advancing age decreases your ability to have children." The physicians viewed this as a public service, given the evidence of widespread confusion about the facts, but the group has come under fire for scaring women with an oversimplified message on a complex subject. "The implication is, 'I have to hurry up and have kids now or give up on ever having them,'" says Kim Gandy, president of the National Organization for Women. "And that is not true for the vast majority of women." Gandy, 48, had her first child at 39. . .
To emphasize a woman's age above all other factors can be just one more piece of misleading information, Gandy suggests. "There are two people involved [in babymaking], and yet we're putting all the responsibility on women and implying that women are being selfish if they don't choose to have children early." She shares the concern that women will hear the research and see the ads and end up feeling it is so hard to strike a balance that it's futile to even try. "There is an antifeminist agenda that says we should go back to the 1950s," says Caryl Rivers, a journalism professor at Boston University. "The subliminal message is, 'Don't get too educated; don't get too successful or too ambitious.'" Allison Rosen, a clinical psychologist in New York City who has made it her mission to make sure her female patients know the fertility odds, disagrees. "This is not a case of male doctors' wanting to keep women barefoot and pregnant," she says. "You lay out the facts, and any particular individual woman can then make her choices." Madsen of A.I.A. argues that the biological imperative is there whether women know it or not. "I cringe when feminists say giving women reproductive knowledge is pressuring them to have a child," she says. "That's simply not true. Reproductive freedom is not just the ability not to have a child through birth control. It's the ability to have one if and when you want one."
That's what's so endearing about so many of the ideologies which inhabit the Left - they make up their own realities. Look at the statement made by the President of N.O.W. - she knows better than fertility specialists what the deal is. She's creating her own truth. Then TIME Magazine quotes a frickin' Journalism Professor who tells women that the message that women should pay attention to their fertility window if they ever want to have children is part of an antifeminist agenda.
Mt. Rushmore: Three surveyors and some other guy.
Life goes on within you and without you. -Harrison
Hear the echoes of the centuries, Power isn't all that money buys. -Peart
After you learn quantum mechanics you're never really the same again. -Weinberg
People who don't fully understand or haven't fully accepted the non-sentient and non-magical nature of evolution and how nature works attach a sense of value and meaning to it, and then try to reverse-engineer justifications for all the stupid **** humans do to each other.
The beast (including the state of nature human beast), in truth, doesn't give a crap about the childfree, because it doesn't have this kind of knowledge, and therefore can't misunderstand it. They are worrying about their own lives, and the safety of their own tribe, and that's it. The fact is evolution has no "winners" or "losers" in the way we think of it. It simply is. There's no value attached to it.
We live in a society that still thinks what women do with their lives is any of its business. We are still debating whether women have a right to their medical care and their bodies in the public square. Some places have moved past this, or never had this in the first place, but we haven't moved past it, and therefore it's pretty clear where this crap comes from.
Last edited by SmokeAndMirrors; 03-20-14 at 06:28 AM.
Bi, Poly, Switch. I'm not indecisive, I'm greedy!
I've never known a truly childFREE (no kids by choice, remember) woman or man who regretted the CF decision. I didn't regret it in my twenties, and I don't regret it now, a couple of decades later. I have, however, read quite a few posts from women (and men) who DO regret having kids and wish they had their "old life" back. You know, the life of complete freedom they had BEFORE they had kids.