View Poll Results: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

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  • Yes. Having children is a moral obligation to God/society/family/etc.

    9 3.93%
  • No, they are free not to have children. They don't have to answer to anybody

    161 70.31%
  • Not if they have reproductive problems.

    2 0.87%
  • Yes, even if they have reproductive problems. They can adopt, you know.

    1 0.44%
  • They should get a medal for lowering world population.

    44 19.21%
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    10 4.37%
  • I don't know.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post

    This is my favorite bingo of all.

    What, do you think all those old people rotting in bottom-dollar homes, who never get a single visit, are all childfree? Please. They're from a time when being childfree wasn't even an option.

    The overwhelming majority of them have kids. Their kids just don't care.

    Having children doesn't guarantee you company or a personal nurse in old age. And with the money I'll save not having any, I'm sure I'll be able to take care of myself.

    And beyond that, if that's the reason you have children, then you are the selfish one, not me.

    Exactly. That is what my own mother told me when I told her we didnt think we wanted kids. She is a registered nurse and for awhile when we kids were in grammar school, she took a job in a nursing home on the night shift so one parent could always be home with us kids.

    She said that 'having someone to care for you in your old age'...there is absolutely no guarantee they will, they have no 'obligation' to do so and many do not. She also said that is a very selfish reason to have kids....to 'grow your own caretakers.'
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    So you've never completely loved a man enough to want his children?

    All about the career??

    I don't know how old you are..but I hope your ''fix'' is reversible..
    ROFLMAO

    We BOTH decided we didnt want kids. It had nothing to do with our love for each other...what kind of romance novel BS are you shoveling? lol

    One reason we chose not to is so we could spend more of our time focused *on us.* Completely selfish of course, but certainly it wasnt depth of love.

    And I'm 53 and still do not regret the decision at all....do you know what date that's supposed to happen on?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    No, however they should not be giving advice on how to raise childrend like so many high educated without children do.
    Oh please. Raising kids isnt rocket science yet it's plain many many parents are failing at it. I'm happy to make a list for you right now...oh, and I can also provide all the excuses the parents have too.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Good relationships, of any type, are much more than just love.

    And incidentally, while most people feel love, very few people are any good at relationships of any kind, including parental. They're full of selfishness and expectation and just sheer laziness, and people think simply because they love someone, that's good enough. That because they have fuzzy feelings in their brain, they deserve a goddamn medal. That's nonsense.
    On that last point, when I read a comment about guys falling in love with love dolls and internet avatars, virtual relationships online, or how close our relationships with our pets are becoming (Guilty!), I'm wondering how much of this might be connected with stories I read about how the internet decreases regular interactions and friendships, and increases a person's sense of individualism and ego....all I know is I have never seen so many people calling themselves libertarians before the computer age began. And, I wonder if an oversized sense of ego plays a part in some people's inability to form normal relationships.

    I read something a little while back, that most people today report having half as many friends as those who lived in the 1950's, a little more than half a century ago. Back when I was young, some psychologists and educators who were suspicious of television and pop culture, believed that TV would make my generation and those coming afterwards more insular and self-absorbed....it likely has played a role in that trend, but all of the online personal media people run around with today, seems to give them a virtual life that they find more interesting than real life.
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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Commie View Post
    On that last point, when I read a comment about guys falling in love with love dolls and internet avatars, virtual relationships online, or how close our relationships with our pets are becoming (Guilty!), I'm wondering how much of this might be connected with stories I read about how the internet decreases regular interactions and friendships, and increases a person's sense of individualism and ego....all I know is I have never seen so many people calling themselves libertarians before the computer age began. And, I wonder if an oversized sense of ego plays a part in some people's inability to form normal relationships.

    I read something a little while back, that most people today report having half as many friends as those who lived in the 1950's, a little more than half a century ago. Back when I was young, some psychologists and educators who were suspicious of television and pop culture, believed that TV would make my generation and those coming afterwards more insular and self-absorbed....it likely has played a role in that trend, but all of the online personal media people run around with today, seems to give them a virtual life that they find more interesting than real life.
    I don't know. It certainly could be part of it, and I think that's even likely, but I think there's another factor you have to add in here: what are you considering a friend?

    1950's culture was pretty socially repressive. Behind closed doors, Stepford wives were swallow pills by the fist full, while their husbands preferred hitting the bottle. The social mob that descended on you was far more extreme if you stepped outside the lines.

    I think people today expect to be taken as they are, and that wasn't the case in the 50's. So if you're judging who is a friend by more stringent criteria, it stands to reason you might have fewer of them.

    Incidentally, this might be part of why the West is finally coming around to properly loving animals, which, by the way, happens in lots of cultures with virtually no technological isolation at all: they always take you as you are.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Many couples don't have children for various reasons. Should they be considered inferior in society?
    No, unless quantity is better than quality...?
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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    At least three families, childless couples I know, raising adopted children. Even my homosexuals neighbors are raising a girl for many years. Another familie of my age, raised three own children, and adopted two other children from Russia.
    Сhildfree, is the pinnacle of selfishness. Or vice versa, cowardice. Know of, too. They live in the absence of love and the meaning of life.
    Please. Childfree couples can be just as and even more so in some cases selfless as those raising children under whatever circumstances. Because many childfree couples simply realize that they would not make good parents and there are those out there who don't make good parents. And there are some people raising children who are awful parents but have those children for selfish reasons.
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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    I certainly didn't have kids so they could take care of me when I'm old and dying. In fact, I have made it clear that under no circumstances do I wish to be cared for by my children. I have legal documentation of this directive. I'd rather be left to die in a ditch than have my son wipe my ass.
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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    In general, no, they should be treated just the same as everyone else. However, there are people out there who are childless and utter asshats about it. A lot of the ones I've run into go by "antinatalists" and they want the human species to go extinct by voluntarily refusing to breed and anyone who does breed is somehow inferior to their high-minded nonsense.

    Those people deserve a solid kick in the head.
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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Do you really think this is a valid question??? really????

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