View Poll Results: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

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  • Yes. Having children is a moral obligation to God/society/family/etc.

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  • No, they are free not to have children. They don't have to answer to anybody

    161 70.31%
  • Not if they have reproductive problems.

    2 0.87%
  • Yes, even if they have reproductive problems. They can adopt, you know.

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  • They should get a medal for lowering world population.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    No one owes any thing to society
    Sure you do. So long as you continue to participate and benefit from it, you owe it lawful participation.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean007 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill
    all things being equal they contribute less to society. "inferior" would be a word that would require qualifications, however.
    NONSENSE. No individual or couple is required to reproduce in order to be considered a "contributing member of society." That's just one more guilt-peddling weapon conservatives use to try and shame women into having children they don't really want.
    .......okay, what part of "all things being equal" was too rhetorically complex for you to follow. ?

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Many couples don't have children for various reasons. Should they be considered inferior in society?
    No. What a stupid question. No offense, but I'd rather people who choose not to have children... not have them. There are a ton of people who shouldnt, and do. At least people who know if children don't or won't fit into their lives are being responsible about knowing and choosing what's right for them and not allowing themselves to be pressured into what society thinks they "should" be doing.
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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Living is primarily for enjoying the gift of life. Sure there is work to be done, but that work is primarily so that one has the resources to enjoy life. Good news to those who have work they enjoy though, that's even better.

    While people are born obligated (we need to seek food for instance) to both themselves and the society around them, its just a necessary evil, really.

    Because of that, if a person chooses to have a child or not has no effect on what point of life is.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Sure you do. So long as you continue to participate and benefit from it, you owe it lawful participation.
    Nope.

    You owe nothing to society which is nothing more than a concept in the first place.

    Every persons life is his or her own to do with as they see fit.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    all things being equal they contribute less to society. "inferior" would be a word that would require qualifications, however.
    Keep in mind that every thug, criminal and lowlife parasite alive also had a mother and a father. Did those "contributions to society" help more than if they had not been born? Simply making babies is not enough, IMHO, to count as a contribution to society. Those that chose not to procreate and simply let those children run wild have also perhaps contributed to society.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Many couples don't have children for various reasons. Should they be considered inferior in society?
    People get together in a family solely, for the continuation of the human race.
    Not just to have children, women may have children without family, but in order continue the culture of human society.
    Couple without children, just do not make sense. Reason that they like to have sex legally, is not accepted. Families without children do not exist.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    People get together in a family solely, for the continuation of the human race.
    Not just to have children, women may have children without family, but in order continue the culture of human society.
    Couple without children, just do not make sense. Reason that they like to have sex legally, is not accepted. Families without children do not exist.
    NONSENSE. Each individual, woman or man, is capable of deciding for herself or himself what makes up a "family." Couples without children may not make sense to you, which is fine. The bolded statement is a ridiculous assertion, which I certainly don't take seriously.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Then you are not paying attention to what anyone is saying, but are rather reacting to some kind of stereotypical bogeyman that you have constructed in your mind.

    Which is sad, that the only way you can come to defend your position is to strawman other points of view. You ought to be able to stand intellectually on your own, not require a prop to lean upon.

    No, I think it is sad that Smoke, too, is reliant upon a (deliberately? She's smart enough to know better) cartoonish picture of her opposition.
    I think it's time for you to find a new schtick, CP. You've tried the "maybe if I patronize them hard enough no one will notice I lost" thing on an awful lot of people, and it's almost invariably gone badly for you. The walloping you got when you tried it in Jetboogie was hysterical.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    I am childless because I am disabled and mentlaly ill to the point where it would not be good fo rthe hcild if I raised them (at leas tnot at this point, I'm 27). While my mental illness and disabilities could make me iferior by some people's standards, given the circustances as they are, being childless in my case is in everyone's best interest.

    I personally do not consider any huan being inferior to any other. I do consider some behavior to be immoral (these mostly are considered crimes by everyone, since I'm very liberal in terms of ethics otherwise). In my opinion, making the choic enot to have children is not su ch an immoral behavior. I do not like the superiority complex many c hildfree people have, but then again I understand wher eit comes from given the general societal attitude that, even if childless couples aren't strictly speaking infrerior, their chice is often condemned.

    As for th eperson who said criminals have parents too: at this point there is no way of selecting for future criminal conduct, so while you might think they'd betternot be born, you can't fault their parents for this.

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