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  • Not if they have reproductive problems.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Many couples don't have children for various reasons. Should they be considered inferior in society?


    Considered "inferior" by whom? Who in society ought to consider themselves "superior" to others in society - particularly on the basis [only] of their having had children?

    By this logic, all (and I generalize) Catholic families ought to be deemed somehow "superior" in society, or many 3rd world couples (and again, I generalize) who in many cases breed beyond their ability to support their children ought to be considered "superior." And politically, anyone who supports contraception ought to be considered "inferior" - if not outright criminal (the next logical step to inferiority).

    I rather appreciate the Duggars for their faith and example, but does the size of their family make them "superior" to couples who have no children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    It is how we repay our parents and our grandparents and our great-grandparents and our more distant forebears for having kept our lines going until we were born-- for having borne and raised us.
    Um, all of whom are dead, or soon to pass on. How does such "payment" benefit the dead, really?

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    It is how we pass on the teachings that were passed on to us.
    It is also how we pass on the sins that were passed on to us. Just sayin...

    Moreover, it ignores the other possibilities - in particular the fact that some couples simply *can't* have children. On what basis should they be considered "inferior?" And who, properly, should be looking down their noses at such couples - exalting themselves to some sort of a "superior" state because they could (or did) have children?

    Frankly, if anyone is going to argue along the lines that couples "owe it to society" to breed, then it could be just as reasonably argued that society "owes it to their couples" to enable them TO breed, economically, financially, educationally,
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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean007 View Post
    Sorry (not really), but you ARE saying just that. By judging childless or childfree individuals or couples as "selfish" or "irresponsible," you are saying that their real contributions are meaningless UNLESS they have children. The last part of your statement directly contradicts the first part.
    First, let me say I'm part of a childless couple that may remain as such as my wife has no desire for children.

    Second, no he's not saying that at all.

    Believing someone is being selfish for not wanting to have kids doesn't mean they're other contributions are meaningless. One doesn't indicate the other. One's other actions could both be meaningful AND be selfish as it relates to the notion of continuing ones ancestery.

    I'll admit, this is part of what I struggle with currently with my wife. Part of why I'd like kids is I want to see my families name continue (of my father and his 4 brothers, I'm one of only 3 male kids) and to feel as if I'm helping to impact something tangably and direclty positive into the "next generation". Having experience as an instructor I recognize there are other ways to impact a child's life besides being their parent....but I also recognize that there's nothing AS impactful as that experience.

    At the same time, I enjoy my life and the freedom around it. I enjoy the ability to go home and lay around watching TV or playing video games if I feel like it. Or going out and playing basketball with friends for the night or even sitting up watching election coverage or researching politics. I like being able to go out to the bar on Saturday nights till 2:00 AM or staying in bed on a weekend day for hours with my wife without a care in the world or spending all day devouring a slate of football games. And, conflicting with my desire for kids I also have a desire to see my wife happy...and she has no desire for kids.

    I get the notion of people suggesting that those who are childless are "selfish". I don't think it applies EVERY time, but I can see how it is with some. I admit that part of why I don't have any yet is because I am a bit selfish...that I don't want to give up what I'm doing right now. At the same time, I think it's a bit of a misnomer. Most people having kids WANT kids...which means it's not somehow "Unselfish" of them to have the kid, because that's what THEY want to be doing. They're still doing what they want, just like I am...it's just in a different manner.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    This is a public service announcement:

    We hope you enjoy the Duggar family so you can soak up some of that superiority.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Wow, dudes and dudesses, where did you dig that old thread from? Well, never mind, go on, if you will.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean007 View Post
    Oh PLEASE. The world population figure is now at 7 BILLION. The human race is hardly in danger of becoming extinct because some individuals choose NOT to reproduce.
    And of course I never implied that at all in the first place. Check your reading comprehension skills.

    Maybe it's a good thing for society that you chose to become a genetic dead end.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    I think it tends to be the other way around. People more tend to look down at women who have children and women who do not as of superior intelligence.

    Personally, I think good parents more beneficially serve society on average than childless couples - and think bad parents on average do more harm to society than childless couples.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Many couples don't have children for various reasons. Should they be considered inferior in society?
    Why is it any of your business whether or not couples have children?

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    This thread is why childless couples hate parents.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Wow, dudes and dudesses, where did you dig that old thread from? Well, never mind, go on, if you will.
    It should be "dudettes" - who are societally superior to dudesses.
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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Many couples don't have children for various reasons. Should they be considered inferior in society?
    Nope, they are superior in fact. Thy do not drain other people's money to raise their children the way people with kids do. Bunch of communists.
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