View Poll Results: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

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  • Yes. Having children is a moral obligation to God/society/family/etc.

    9 3.93%
  • No, they are free not to have children. They don't have to answer to anybody

    161 70.31%
  • Not if they have reproductive problems.

    2 0.87%
  • Yes, even if they have reproductive problems. They can adopt, you know.

    1 0.44%
  • They should get a medal for lowering world population.

    44 19.21%
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    10 4.37%
  • I don't know.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    If assigning people value regardless of their "worth" to society is saintly, I think we could all do with more saintliness.
    Yes, and that doesn't seem to me to be what you are doing.

    Only a person who has never cared for a child could ask that question.
    So when did your children ask you to be born?

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    So receiving based on having put in through work is not the premise?
    That is correct.

    What, do you think the childfree don't pay SS?
    No. I think that their FICA tax goes to pay for their parents' generation of benefits. That, after all, is how the system was designed explicitly to function.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Yes, and that doesn't seem to me to be what you are doing.
    OK.

    So when did your children ask you to be born?
    You're possessed of your consciousness and it cannot be revoked, but you would question the validity of bringing other consciousnesses into being. I'd say that's the definition of selfishness.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That is correct.

    No. I think that their FICA tax goes to pay for their parents' generation of benefits. That, after all, is how the system was designed explicitly to function.
    And so what is the problem with that?

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    And so what is the problem with that?
    well, for one thing, unless you maintain a high enough birthrate, it's unsustainable.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    You're possessed of your consciousness and it cannot be revoked, but you would question the validity of bringing other consciousnesses into being. I'd say that's the definition of selfishness.
    You didn't answer my question. When did your children ask to be born?

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    well, for one thing, unless you maintain a high enough birthrate, it's unsustainable.
    It's uncomfortable in the short game, but probably a net positive in the long run.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    It's uncomfortable in the short game, but probably a net positive in the long run.
    by which you mean....???

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    by which you mean....???
    With the level of consumption we have, a smaller population would be a much better thing for everyone.

    But regardless, I am still really confused about why this creates some kind of obligation for anyone to breed.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    One thing I have always thought is the more kids you have the higher your taxes should be instead of visa versa. It cost between 10 and 20k per year per student in our public schools depending on the state you live in.

    How Much Does The Government Spend To Send A Kid To Public School? : Planet Money : NPR

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