View Poll Results: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

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  • No, they are free not to have children. They don't have to answer to anybody

    161 70.31%
  • Not if they have reproductive problems.

    2 0.87%
  • Yes, even if they have reproductive problems. They can adopt, you know.

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  • They should get a medal for lowering world population.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Yes. They have an obligation to the line of their ancestors to keep their lineage going and they are failing to do so. They have an obligation to society to do their part in raising the next generation of citizens and they are failing to do so. They are failing to live up to the responsibilities of adults.
    Why do adults have a "responsibility" to keep their "line" going?

    And how is choosing other endeavors not responsible or adult?

    I don't understand this concept that we owe something to someone who doesn't even exist, or that our lives lack purpose without offspring.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Not only. In all traditional societies, including Germany before the industrial revolution and way beyond that.

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    I live in Germany. Nobody considers anyone inferior for not having kids. You've selected the completely wrong adjective.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    You've selected the completely wrong adjective.
    No, it's right. I've double checked the dictionary. Let's see what people will say in the discussion.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    No, it's right. I've double checked the dictionary. Let's see what people will say in the discussion.
    *shrugs* You believe what you believe, no matter how bat **** crazy. We'll just let the poll decide. Not looking good for you, homie.

    And I'm confused, wasn't everybody just complaining about overpopulation? We have over 7 billion people on earth, are we in danger of going extinct? That's the only time I could possibly see someone having a "duty" to the human race to breed. It's like those stupid pandas that are on the verge of extinction and yet refuse to ****.
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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Why do adults have a "responsibility" to keep their "line" going?
    It is how we repay our parents and our grandparents and our great-grandparents and our more distant forebears for having kept our lines going until we were born-- for having borne and raised us. It is how we pass on the teachings that were passed on to us.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    And how is choosing other endeavors not responsible or adult?
    I'm not saying that it is. I'm saying that choosing other endeavors at the expense of your family line is irresponsible. It's short-sighted and selfish.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    I don't understand this concept that we owe something to someone who doesn't even exist, or that our lives lack purpose without offspring.
    Again, not saying that. You can live a life of tremendous purpose and meaning without bearing children. You're just missing an important aspect of family and social life. I don't think childless couples are particularly less happy or less fulfilled than couples with children-- just less responsible to the line of their ancestors.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    It is how we repay our parents and our grandparents and our great-grandparents and our more distant forebears for having kept our lines going until we were born-- for having borne and raised us. It is how we pass on the teachings that were passed on to us.



    I'm not saying that it is. I'm saying that choosing other endeavors at the expense of your family line is irresponsible. It's short-sighted and selfish.



    Again, not saying that. You can live a life of tremendous purpose and meaning without bearing children. You're just missing an important aspect of family and social life. I don't think childless couples are particularly less happy or less fulfilled than couples with children-- just less responsible to the line of their ancestors.
    There's the problem. You feel responsible to your ancestors. I'm sorry, but they're dead. They won't notice whether you do or don't have kids. Life is only about doing what makes you happy.
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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    It is how we repay our parents and our grandparents and our great-grandparents and our more distant forebears for having kept our lines going until we were born-- for having borne and raised us. It is how we pass on the teachings that were passed on to us.
    Why do I care whether they did that or not? If they hadn't, I simply wouldn't exist, and I'm sure I'd have a very hard time caring about my non-existence.

    Also, how do you thank dead people in any meaningful way?

    And even if you could, how is reproducing the best way to say thank you?

    I'm not saying that it is. I'm saying that choosing other endeavors at the expense of your family line is irresponsible. It's short-sighted and selfish.
    Why? How is it "selfish" to choose NOT to bring someone into being without their consent? I don't get this.

    How is it short-sighted? I'll be dead in the end either way.

    Again, not saying that. You can live a life of tremendous purpose and meaning without bearing children. You're just missing an important aspect of family and social life. I don't think childless couples are particularly less happy or less fulfilled than couples with children-- just less responsible to the line of their ancestors.
    I don't happen to think it is all that important, and one need not have children to have a family.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Life is only about doing what makes you happy.
    And this would be why I would call your outlook "selfish".

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    And this would be why I would call your outlook "selfish".
    Before you make such an assertion about his view, you must explain what the purpose of potentially being less happy for dead people or non-existent people is.

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    Re: Should childless couples be considered inferior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    And this would be why I would call your outlook "selfish".
    Being selfish would require caring only for one's self and ignoring the needs/feelings of others. Our ancestors are dead. They don't have needs, they don't have feelings, and you certainly can't care for them. That leaves only you and your spouse to make the decision.
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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