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Thread: Re: Portman. For those members against gay marriage:

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    Re: Portman. For those members against gay marriage:

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Okay, so they're probably an extreme minority. So what?
    I don't know what--you're the one who responded to my post. I was responding to someone other than you.

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    Re: Portman. For those members against gay marriage:

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I don't know what--you're the one who responded to my post. I was responding to someone other than you.
    You said that it was important to remember that not everyone who is gay supports SSM. Why is it important to remember?

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    Re: Portman. For those members against gay marriage:

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    You said that it was important to remember that not everyone who is gay supports SSM. Why is it important to remember?
    Because people are unique individuals, not merely representatives of a group. What, didn't want to look up "monolith"?

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    Re: Portman. For those members against gay marriage:

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Because people are unique individuals, not merely representatives of a group. What, didn't want to look up "monolith"?
    Yeah, I know what 'monolith' means. No need to be condescending.

    If a few people, who are gay, oppose gay marriage, that's fine. However, a great majority of those who are gay obviously favor marriage.

    There are those 'few' in all equal rights movements who favor the status quo.

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    Re: Portman. For those members against gay marriage:

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Yeah, I know what 'monolith' means. No need to be condescending.

    If a few people, who are gay, oppose gay marriage, that's fine. However, a great majority of those who are gay obviously favor marriage.

    There are those 'few' in all equal rights movements who favor the status quo.
    I didn't intend to be condescending; I just wanted you to stop hounding me when I wasn't even talking to you and when you clearly want to minimize facts you don't like by using the term "extreme minority."

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    Re: Portman. For those members against gay marriage:

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I didn't intend to be condescending; I just wanted you to stop hounding me when I wasn't even talking to you and when you clearly want to minimize facts you don't like by using the term "extreme minority."
    My apologies. I know you weren't talking to me, but I disagreed with your post a little, so I responded to it.

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    Re: Portman. For those members against gay marriage:

    Thank you for being gracious.

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    Re: Portman. For those members against gay marriage:

    Anyone who is against gay marriage is (imo) either middle aged or older and/or too religious and/or below average in intelligence.


    Btw - I am 'straight'.

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    Re: Portman. For those members against gay marriage:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    In light of Rob Portman's change of heart regarding gay marriage, if your son/daughter/brother/sister came to you and told you they were gay, would you, could you see yourself changing your stance?
    I don't really know Rob Portman that well so I can't speak to him. I will say that my sister coming out (she came out to me first, actually) did not change my belief system, and I don't really understand why it would change anyone else's, unless your beliefs were dictated to you by emotion in the first place.

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    Re: Portman. For those members against gay marriage:

    I was against gay marriage and still am as far as my religious beliefs go. It is a sin and I will never recognize it as anything real or tangible. I however do realize that equal treatment under our secular law is to important. The sin is between them and God, as it is for all as I am a sinner as well. So I support SSM even though I will never recognize it as being under God.
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