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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertzz View Post
    The only disadvantage that I could see is that the politicians who really are great wouldn't be able to stay there. But we would supposedly continue to elect more really great politicians.

    The benefits are numerous. What are your thoughts?


    And my plug: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...gress/bm01vV2m sign the petition if you agree. Let's get Obama to submit an amendment. Or if he won't, let him explain why not. It's time to take the lobbyists out of Washington.

    If this petition gets 150 signatures, it will go public. It needs 100,000 by 4/14/13. I'm an introvert. I don't know 150 people and I don't have facebook. If you believe in this cause, please sign it and share it.

    If you don't believe in it, why not? Am I missing something?
    Term limits should not be implemented.

    Age limits should.

    We do not need politicians making policy on developments that they are too old to understand, especially at the rate in which developments now occur.

    We don't need decrepit politicians voting however their staff tells them to.

    Age limits are a good alternative, as it allows professional politicians to develop the skills, experience, and knowledge necessary to form policy in a modern society without kicking them out just because they wanted to serve the people their life.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertzz View Post
    The only disadvantage that I could see is that the politicians who really are great wouldn't be able to stay there. But we would supposedly continue to elect more really great politicians.

    The benefits are numerous. What are your thoughts?


    And my plug: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...gress/bm01vV2m sign the petition if you agree. Let's get Obama to submit an amendment. Or if he won't, let him explain why not. It's time to take the lobbyists out of Washington.

    If this petition gets 150 signatures, it will go public. It needs 100,000 by 4/14/13. I'm an introvert. I don't know 150 people and I don't have facebook. If you believe in this cause, please sign it and share it.

    If you don't believe in it, why not? Am I missing something?
    I don't like limiting the options voters may have. However I do think its incumbents have an unfair advantage. Not 100% how to level the field. The closest I've come up with is requiring candidates to give half of their contributions to a public finance fund that gets shared with all candidates, free time for political ads on TV and radio for everybody running, put superpacs under the same rules as regular campaigns and ban corporate, lobby and union contributions.

    I am supportive of term limiting the congressional seniority system however.
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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    It appears that these "benefits" are so numerous that you listed exactly none of them. You also listed not specific term limits, or even included the petition text. Disadvantges that come to mind; 1) lame duck representatives are very apt to represent nobody but themselves, 2) if your representative is doing a good job then they are effectively fired for doing just that, 3) incumbents have an actual record to judge while challengers merely offer promises and 4) too many morons vote based only on party affiliation so challengers (winning the primary) in solid red/blue districts still recieve no real opposition anyway.
    Thoughtful reasons. Thanks. For text of the petition and the reasons for term limits are contained in the link, which is provided. The intent is to get people to the page to sign. If I give you the information, your incentive to click is decreased. You may obviously choose not to do so anyway.

    in response:

    1) I'm not so cynical to believe this. The sacrifice to become a politician would be significant if a career could not be made of it. The intentions would be more pure than you suggest, I believe.

    2) It is not a career from which you get fired. It is a service, this is why it is a sacrifice.

    3) This is a legitimate concern. However, it seems that 79% of people were against the incumbents records in 2012 (Congress had a 21% approval rating) and yet 90%+ of incumbents were re-elected. Judging their record negatively does not correlate with re-election chances.

    4) The point isn't to switch districts more rapidly between red & blue. It's to end corruption of specific individuals - to end the temptation of lobbyists, money and power and to keep the government moving at the same pace as the people.

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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    I use to believe: "The voters are the term limits." It may have been true at one time, but I no longer hold that belief.

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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    There should be no term limits. We have never had term limits though we have to and were perfectly fine. The voters decide if they don't like your government they will just vote you and your members out like they did with Mulroney.

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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Term limits should not be implemented.

    Age limits should.

    We do not need politicians making policy on developments that they are too old to understand, especially at the rate in which developments now occur.

    We don't need decrepit politicians voting however their staff tells them to.

    Age limits are a good alternative, as it allows professional politicians to develop the skills, experience, and knowledge necessary to form policy in a modern society without kicking them out just because they wanted to serve the people their life.
    I like this!

    Make them retire at 67 or 68,whatever SS retirement starts

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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    There should be no term limits. We have never had term limits though we have to and were perfectly fine. The voters decide if they don't like your government they will just vote you and your members out like they did with Mulroney.
    No, the voters don't.

    What decides is how state legislatures gerrymander House districts in their states.

    We also need to get rid of the single-member district system for the House seats and instead implement a party proportional system. That will also help get 3rd party candidates elected to Congress.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertzz View Post
    The only disadvantage that I could see is that the politicians who really are great wouldn't be able to stay there. But we would supposedly continue to elect more really great politicians.

    The benefits are numerous. What are your thoughts?


    And my plug: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...gress/bm01vV2m sign the petition if you agree. Let's get Obama to submit an amendment. Or if he won't, let him explain why not. It's time to take the lobbyists out of Washington.

    If this petition gets 150 signatures, it will go public. It needs 100,000 by 4/14/13. I'm an introvert. I don't know 150 people and I don't have facebook. If you believe in this cause, please sign it and share it.

    If you don't believe in it, why not? Am I missing something?
    I agree! 1-2yrs tops for all positions.

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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    No, the voters don't.

    What decides is how state legislatures gerrymander House districts in their states.

    We also need to get rid of the single-member district system for the House seats and instead implement a party proportional system. That will also help get 3rd party candidates elected to Congress.
    Do you not a federal office that determines districts by population?

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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Sure. Let's limit them to zero terms.


    That's about what they're worth.



    Or better yet, let's make their salary contingent on NOT doing anything. Then things might finally get better.


    You can tell I'm in a rather negative and cynical mood just the now...
    These people dont work for their salaries, they work for those that line their pockets with Benjamin.

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