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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Sad, but true.

    I wonder what elections cost in other developed countries?

    Well, time for me to call it a day.

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    That, sir, is a most interesting question (election cost)..
    IMO, we have an incredible amount of waste here...
    I'd prefer to see a 20 day campaign time, with maybe 3 hours of TV time, giving all a chance to be informed...
    Something like that....

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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    There should be no term limits. We have never had term limits though we have to and were perfectly fine. The voters decide if they don't like your government they will just vote you and your members out like they did with Mulroney.
    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    No, the voters don't.

    What decides is how state legislatures gerrymander House districts in their states.

    We also need to get rid of the single-member district system for the House seats and instead implement a party proportional system. That will also help get 3rd party candidates elected to Congress.
    Cannot agree with samssmart's solution but he is correct unlike Canada in the US there is only two Parties at the Fed Level and they are frozen in. The solution would be getting third Parties by requiring states to allow more than just the two. We would not even have the discussion about term limits if we would have the ablity to vote for third Parties and of course eventuly retiring old parties when their time was done.
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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Gotcha. To be real though, amending the Constitution as we know is something modern America has difficulty living up to. Heck, the last time it was tried was the ERA in 72. It passed both houses in Congress but stalled in the final ratification by the states and expired in 82 never having made the bar.
    It was badly worded. Good thing it did not pass. BTW the Admendment to limit Congress' ability to vote up their salary was passed.
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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    They say that "everyone has their price." Why can't we elect someone who is not so pricey? Or are they too busy earning a living the old-fashioned way...you know--by working?
    I think that it is far easier, far less "work" to convince an engine to run properly than it is to change the mind of a human..
    Its less "work" to move a ton of stone than to convince a man, who really cares not, to vote for a certain individual..
    So - so much for "work".

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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Yes, but for long terms. At least twelve years for both, 2 Senate/6 House, but 3 Senate and 8 House would be better.

    We have term limits in KC and, IMO, our 2x 4-year terms are a little short. It takes time to actually figure out how things work and it's hard to make sound decisions on complex issues when you're flailing around trying to learn the system. On the other hand, in our unlimited system the Council seemed to get in a rut and new ideas were rare. (We should switch to 3x 4-years but that hasn't happened, yet.) So, yes, based on my experience with city politics, I think we should have limits - but not short ones. Give the new people time to adjust and learn then some years to really get things done - we hope!
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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    a change to our electoral system, adopting preferential voting rather than first past the post, would be a better fix than term limits
    Under ‘full’ preferential voting each candidate must be given a preference by the voter. First, all the number ‘1’ votes are counted for each candidate. If a candidate gets more than 50 per cent (an absolute majority, 50 per cent plus one) of the formal first preference votes, the candidate is immediately elected. If no candidate has an absolute majority, the candidate with the fewest votes is excluded. These votes are then transferred to the other candidates according to the second preferences shown by voters on the ballot papers. If still no candidate has an absolute majority, again the remaining candidate with the fewest votes is excluded and these votes are transferred. This process will continue until one candidate has more than half the total votes cast and is declared elected.
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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    As a matter of practical application there has to be a line somewhere. Where would you draw the line so that you could still feel a legitimate process when you don't get your way?
    I don't have a problem with the system. I have a problem with people when they say that every vote counts though...
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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no need
    we have the right every two/six years to shake things up
    and we do elect those politicians we deserve
    But is this really true?

    I recently read a piece (will look for it again) that described how our current system really isnt in the hands of the voter but instead the real power resides in the big two establishments (GOP, Democratic party) which influence elections as much as the people by largely determining who will gain significant funding and public exposure. How many times have you heard about a potential candidate wanting to run against another member of the same party being asked, bullied, or bribed NOT to run? I have seen several example over the years. How many potential candidates who go against the powers actually ever get elected?, not many. It seems you either play by the established power's rules or have little chance of promoting your political career.

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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    But is this really true?

    I recently read a piece (will look for it again) that described how our current system really isnt in the hands of the voter but instead the real power resides in the big two establishments (GOP, Democratic party) which influence elections as much as the people by largely determining who will gain significant funding and public exposure. How many times have you heard about a potential candidate wanting to run against another member of the same party being asked, bullied, or bribed NOT to run? I have seen several example over the years. How many potential candidates who go against the powers actually ever get elected?, not many. It seems you either play by the established power's rules or have little chance of promoting your political career.
    I'll bet that's somewhat true. If you really think about, things don't really change much from one president to the next, at least not in recent times.

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    Re: Should Term Limits be implemented for Congress?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'll bet that's somewhat true. If you really think about, things don't really change much from one president to the next, at least not in recent times.
    the bureaucratic inertia tends to cause that



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