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Thread: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    My first impulse is to ask if this is a trick question? I would think the common sense answer is no, I would not a mentally ill person to own or have a firearm. Heck, I do not want criminals to have firearms either.
    Heck no, not at all a trick question.... I see that someone actually voted yes, so I do in fact see the need for further discussion on this topic here (I would hope the person whom voted yes would comment, so we could see, at least, where they are coming from and if they can make a valid point).

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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    I say (emphatically) no - at least, not until they are pronounced 100% well and sane by a qualified psychiatrist. Just tired of hearing about mentally ill individuals shooting up schools/theaters, etc.

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    An awful lot of the time, mentally ill people aren't diagnosed. However, I think anyone prescribed over "X-milligrams" of a to-be-determined list of psychotropic drugs ought to be banned from owning firearms. Doctors would, of course, be the ones to come to a decision on level of medication it'd apply to. Hell, the medications themselves have unwanted and dangerous side effects.
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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    The government has cut mental health funding over every administration since Reagan. They have apparently decided that mental illness is no longer their problem.

    The question shouldn't be directed at mental health vs. gun ownership, it should be mental health vs. state priorities.

    We would have fewer people on welfare, less violent crime, and a reduced prison population if the Fed would bring back its national mental health strategy.

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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    An awful lot of the time, mentally ill people aren't diagnosed. However, I think anyone prescribed over "X-milligrams" of a to-be-determined list of psychotropic drugs ought to be banned from owning firearms. Doctors would, of course, be the ones to come to a decision on level of medication it'd apply to. Hell, the medications themselves have unwanted and dangerous side effects.
    Absolutely, Maggie - and you are also right on about the meds.... The meds you describe are no joke and anyone on them should be monitored closely, imho.

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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    The government has cut mental health funding over every administration since Reagan. They have apparently decided that mental illness is no longer their problem.

    The question shouldn't be directed at mental health vs. gun ownership, it should be mental health vs. state priorities.

    We would have fewer people on welfare, less violent crime, and a reduced prison population if the Fed would bring back its national mental health strategy.
    Yeah, well, that wasn't the question.
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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    Just wanted to comment on this briefly....

    As someone whom has struggled with mental illness in the past (severe ptsd, to split the hairline here), I can attest that qualified psychiatrists have a sort of "danger scale," which they use to gauge the level of hostility in their clients. Take me, for instance - I will be the first to concede there was once a time when I had no business owning a gun, albeit the person I was probably the most dangerous to was myself.... I've since made a full recovery and been pronounced cured by my physicians - this has just happened within the last six months or so. Now, I personally don't like guns and don't own any - however, I won't stand in judgment of those whom struggle (say) with MINOR psychiatric difficulties and own guns as well. From my experience, most people whom experience mild issues are in no way a danger to anyone - however, I do hear what you are saying. I guess there are no guarantees - one thing I've learned is that nothing is 100% - the only thing us humans can't escape is death.... They told me that when I joined the Navy and it has taken me many years to finally grasp the meaning of that phrase.

    I guess what I'm saying, NP is that you have a valid point. From what I understand, the Colorado theater shooter (Holmes) was in treatment with a qualified psychiatrist before the shooting - he basically pulled wool over her eyes. So absolutely, nothing is 100% and guaranteed.... Generally speaking, however, I would tend to agree with Goshin, as MOST people who struggle with minor disorders are completely harmless.... Furthermore (from my experience), those people tend to be better off than normal people who've never been treated for any mental disorder.... But maybe that is another issue.

    Please know that I do hear what you are saying....

    edited to add: Now, some people are diagnosed mentally ill these days whom are completely normal - but, that is another topic altogether (I could go into what I believe to be a lot of over-diagnoses by a lot of over-zealous psychiatrists these days, but now I am getting off me own topic)... Anyway, hope all of this clears up my intent for this thread...
    You make great points my friend and I probably could be convinced to allow the people you and Goshin are talking about to be exempt from the restriction....I would say those kind of people would be the only ones I might exempt..........I truly believes all these people that are killing are crazy......No sane person would do it.
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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Yeah, well, that wasn't the question.
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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Are there any particular criteria you had in mind to define "mentally ill"?
    Obviously, when the government says your mentally ill, citizen.

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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Depends on what you mean by mentally ill.


    Certified dangerous by a couple shrinks, and/or involuntarily committed: No.


    Potentially dangerous without their meds (ie some paranoid schitzophrenics): Probably not.


    Minor PTSD, minor anxiety disorder, routine depression... these things should not bar you from gun ownership. They are things most of us will experience at some point in life.
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