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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    NO ONE should seek psychological help. There is no doctor-client privilege in regards to criminal law - nor privacy - for how often prosecutors release such information to the press. If you see a professional for counseling, exactly every word you say - and every word that professional says you said - whether you did or not - can be used against you in court and then even in the media.
    It really depends on the situation and the state. From what I understand, they aren't legally obligated to say anything as long as you're not professing that you're going to hurt somebody. If I told my shrink "I smoke weed to help my depression", that still falls under doctor-client privilege.
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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    NO ONE should seek psychological help. There is no doctor-client privilege in regards to criminal law - nor privacy - for how often prosecutors release such information to the press. If you see a professional for counseling, exactly every word you say - and every word that professional says you said - whether you did or not - can be used against you in court and then even in the media.
    There is perhaps need for reform since it discourages many from saying what's really on their mind, but others just need help and are willing to take the risk. Some shrinks though I would think would protect that information at any cost, much as a reporter protects a source even against court order.

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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Wait... 12 people said yes? Mentally ill people should be allowed to own guns? What the ****?
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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Wait... 12 people said yes? Mentally ill people should be allowed to own guns? What the ****?
    "Mentally ill" could be a learning disability or ADD. Your right to arms should be blocked if you've been determined to be incompetent or dangerous, not because you're dyslexic.

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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    "Mentally ill" could be a learning disability or ADD. Your right to arms should be blocked if you've been determined to be incompetent or dangerous, not because you're dyslexic.
    And how will mental incompetency be determined?

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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    "Mentally ill" could be a learning disability or ADD. Your right to arms should be blocked if you've been determined to be incompetent or dangerous, not because you're dyslexic.
    Those are not mental illnesses. They are learning disabilities...
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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    If someone voted yes, I would prefer he kept his justification to himself. I just assumed that 100% would vote no. But you know what they say about assumptions.
    I voted yes. ANYONE should be allowed to exercise their natural INALIENABLE rights until they are brought before the judicial system and determined to be unfit. At that point then and only then should they be deprived of their rights. That is the ONLY and proper way to deal with this type of situation. Goshen in my opinion needs to clarify his reasoning and outline what method he prefers. This type matter is a judicial matter and should be decided in court. Its the reason we have them.
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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    "Mentally ill" could be a learning disability or ADD. Your right to arms should be blocked if you've been determined to be incompetent or dangerous, not because you're dyslexic.
    It's all my fault and I take full blame for this - I probably even should have used the term "crazy/dangerously insane people" instead of "mentally ill." But, since I decided to use the broader PC term, this poll/thread is a mess....

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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Good question. I'm not sure how I feel about the mentally ill owning guns. I guess, like others have said, it depends upon the severity.

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    Re: Should the mentally ill be able to own/carry guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    And how will mental incompetency be determined?
    The same way it is now.

    DPCDA Guidelines

    According to the DPCDA, a mere diagnosis of a physical or mental disorder in and of itself is not sufficient to establish lack of capacity. Rather, a judicial determination of incompetence should be based on evidence “of a deficit in one or more of the person’s mental functions.” Furthermore, the code requires a finding of significant impairment with respect to “the type of act or decision in question,” and the court may take into consideration “the frequency, severity,and duration of periods of impairment.”

    Section 811 of the Probate Code divides mental functions into four broad domains in which deficits may be found. These domains are: (1) alertness and attention, (2) information processing, (3) thought processes, and (4) ability to modulate mood and affect.
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