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Do you REALLY care about the next Pope?

How much do you care about who the next Pope is?


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I really find that hard to believe. I have been military all my life, I live in Georgia in the states, I couldn't tell you where there is a catholic church. In my 20 years of active duty, I may have know only a handful of Catholics. Only in Germany on the civilian side, did I run into a bunch of them.

I have no reason to doubt it, perhaps they are all in Europe

Europe is going mainly secular, the Catholic Church has largely lost it's grip there. Most so-called Catholics in Europe use the term as a social tool, not as a religious one. In Spain, for example, only 1 in 5 people who term themselves Catholic go to Mass. In Germany it's 1 in 6. In France, it's 1 in 10. The Church is falling apart.
 
I am always sorry to here a statement like that. I would hope you might change before you meet your creator on judgment day.

I'm not worried about your imaginary friend in the sky. I'd be more worried about meeting a Catholic priest in a dark alley.
 
As of right now, 41 people could care less... which means they do care. :cool:

Anyway... It is news, though it is being over-reported, IMO. We don't really need wall-to-wall coverage.

I don't really care specifically, though I do care in the sense of wanting to be aware of what happens in the world around me.
 
There's an awful lot in your short little post that's highly debatable.

However, that doesn't really answer my question.

Is the press coverage of this "event" reasonable, or do you find it intrusive and obnoxious?

It's not like the vote for the next pope is a public vote.
Intrusive? No, not really. I/we can turn it off at any time. Obnoxious? Ok.
 
Now I want you to concentrate like a Laser so I don't have to tell you again...........I am a Conservative Independent....You can continue to bring it up but like my ancient history I won't respond to it again.

Fair enough....and I expect that you won't comment on other people who you feel misapply labels to themselves. Afterall, NP, you
said it yourself. What is good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
 
The Catholic Church, as with other Christian institutions, will become irrelevant unless they distance themselves from the Democrat Party and the Liberals. These Christian institutions were originally sucked in by the Liberal facade of helping the poor, etc., etc. and the the Church failed to adapt as the Liberals became the party of "What's Happening Now!", be it love of homosexuality, ridicule of traditional families and fathers, love of Muslims, all of the Liberal Democrat programs that attract the unusual among us. The "Helping the poor" routine for government, of course, is to steal from those who don't vote Democrat and reward those who do vote Democrat.

The Catholic Church will have to loudly and affirmatively renounce the Democrat Party, Muslims, homosexuality, pop culture, Hollywood, large Socialist government and all of the things the Democrats are using to destroy America or the Church truly will become irrelevant.

Christians will not lose their faith, they will simply go elsewhere for a stronger affirmation of their faith and a stronger condemnation of the evil represented by the Democrat Party.
 
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The Catholic Church, as with other Christian institutions, will become irrelevant unless they distance themselves from the Democrat Party and the Liberals. These Christian institutions were originally sucked in by the Liberal facade of helping the poor, etc., etc. and the the Church failed to adapt as the Liberals became the party of "What's Happening Now!", be it love of homosexuality, ridicule of traditional families and fathers, love of Muslims, all of the Liberal Democrat programs that attract the unusual among us. The "Helping the poor" routine for government, of course, is steal from those who don't vote Democrat and reward those who do vote Democrat.

The Catholic Church will have to loudly and affirmatively renounce the Democrat Party, Muslims, homosexuality, pop culture, large Socialist government and all of the things the Democrats are using to destroy America or the Church truly will become irrelevant.

Christians will not lose their faith, they will simply go elsewhere for a stronger affirmation of their faith.
Liberals...wut?


Liberals are not at the root of all your demons...regardless what Rush and Sean tell you. You may want to sniff the air outside the RW bubble every now and then to see what's really happening in the place the rest of us call reality.
 
Liberals...wut?


Liberals are not at the root of all your demons...regardless what Rush and Sean tell you. You may want to sniff the air outside the RW bubble every now and then to see what's really happening in the place the rest of us call reality.

Are you able to understand that your "reality" is not a reality that others want for themselves, their families or their children? Look at the Poll chart above, dripping with sarcasm, hatred and ridicule of the faith of complete strangers that the OP will never meet. Is that ugliness the reality you cherish?
 
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I care in the sense the Catholic church needs to be cleaned up and modernized concerning marriage of priests and allowing women to be ordained.

I was born Catholic and believe in the Saints and Heaven and Jesus .
I don't think it is the Official Church of God it alludes to.

I'm ticked that pedophile priests are not in jail by the truckload.
i mean the new Pope should address that issue...

pay off the abused and allow the pedophiles to hide under the robes of the Popes.
Cause that is what it seems right now.
 
During the reign of King Henry VIII, he broke away from the Catholic Church because they would not approve his divorce from Catherine, mother of the future Queen known as "Bloody Mary," so he could marry Ann Boleyn, mother of the future Queen Elizabeth. He started the Church of England 500+ years ago, resulting in a chism in the populace and many deaths in the years that followed....

Wars of religion, how sweet,
 
Europe is going mainly secular, the Catholic Church has largely lost it's grip there. Most so-called Catholics in Europe use the term as a social tool, not as a religious one. In Spain, for example, only 1 in 5 people who term themselves Catholic go to Mass. In Germany it's 1 in 6. In France, it's 1 in 10. The Church is falling apart.

Interesting.
 
I'm already sick to death about all the attention the election of the next Pope is getting. It's headline news all over the internet.
You'd think there's nothing else in the world that's of any importance.

Cardinals head to conclave to elect pope for troubled Church - Yahoo! News



Why the hell is this such a HUGE news item?

Outside of Vatican City, who really cares?

Do you?
Does a pope really effect your daily life?
Do you honestly have a personal stake in who the pope is?
Does your day change at all depending on what the pope says or does?

Is this "next pope" phenomena really that big of a deal?

I was interested to learn how the process works, but that's about it. I guess the next pope is supposed to be the last one, so that'll be interesting.
 
Are you able to understand that your "reality" is not a reality that others want for themselves, their families or their children? Look at the Poll chart above, dripping with sarcasm, hatred and ridicule of the faith of complete strangers that the OP will never meet. Is that ugliness the reality you cherish?
Cherishing something is not relevant to accepting reality. Lot's of things in reality are things I definitely do not cherish. Cancer, for example, is not something to cherish. But, knowing about cancer is a good reason not to smoke cigarettes.

Seeing the Catholic Church as overly Liberal, blaming everything that is wrong with it on the Left, instead of addressing the fact that it's ultra-conservative constructs regarding human sexuality, like celibacy for male priests, and their insistence of keeping females away from positions of power, is not helpful. Leaving a bunch of sexually dysfunctional men in charge of the institution while shouting aloud about Liberal conspiracies is like letting a baby's head sink under because you're attention is focused on maintaining the temperature of the bath water.
 
I just heard there's white smoke...
 
If you could care less, then you must care a bit, in order to care less than that. Just sayin'

The BBC was winding us up with a scrolling announcement, "The new pontiff has been elected, and his name is...... to be announced shortly.


Pope Francis the First is among us.
 
I'm an Atheist and could care less what the church does. I was taking bets on Father Guido Sarducci for Pope though
 
Still don't care - I was annoyed when I logged into youtube and every time I surfed to a new screen a pop-up scroll bar gave me some sort of line about the Vatican.

What the hell?
 
While I am not Catholic and do I not believe in religious hierarchy, I also recognize that the Pope has great influence over millions around the world. Considering that, I do care who is chosen.
 
Well - they've chosen....so hopefully the insane press coverage can subside within the next week or so....hopefully.

fingers crossed...
 
I don't really care but the selection of Pope will have outcomes on the isues here in the US on many political issues like health care and the freedom of worship.
 
Haven't you ever wondered why? I'm not referring to religion. I'm meaning, for example, why humans experience pleasure? It's certainly not a requirement for survival.

Well, in a way, like with intercourse with the thought of procreation, it is necessary to one extent or another, but is mostly one-sided in that regard. And to answer your first question, no, I haven't seriously contemplated the implications of why humans, or even the larger mammal (and animal) family, having the ability to feel the sensations of either pleasure or pain.
 
Well - they've chosen....so hopefully the insane press coverage can subside within the next week or so....hopefully.

fingers crossed...

For anyone hoping that the new Pope will be more modern, and in line with many American Catholics... Your perpetual hope has been dashed again.

The conservative Cardinals have once again elected a dried up prune, with a penchant for no married priests, no birth control, no change, no nuthin... period.

Good luck boys and girls, because every thing in this world is changing constantly... Except the Catholic Church.
 
For anyone hoping that the new Pope will be more modern, and in line with many American Catholics... Your perpetual hope has been dashed again.

The conservative Cardinals have once again elected a dried up prune, with a penchant for no married priests, no birth control, no change, no nuthin... period.

Good luck boys and girls, because every thing in this world is changing constantly... Except the Catholic Church.

I didn't expect change.....I just HATE hearing and reading about that damn church on a daily basis.
 
The pope is more important than the president of the united states.

For that reason, it matters, and you should care. Even if you're not catholic.
 
The pope is more important than the president of the united states.

For that reason, it matters, and you should care. Even if you're not catholic.

If you're not Catholic, then the first premise is probably false.
 
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