View Poll Results: How much do you care about who the next Pope is?

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  • I care a lot. It means everything to me.

    8 5.76%
  • I could care less.

    70 50.36%
  • What's a pope?

    5 3.60%
  • I care, but it doesn't need as much press as it's getting.

    23 16.55%
  • Who won the hockey game last night is far more important.

    20 14.39%
  • other - please explain

    27 19.42%
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    Re: Do you REALLY care about the next Pope?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    They elected a Conservative......God Bless him.
    He'll continue to chase people away from the Catholic Church then, which is fine by me. There's a reason the church is failing much faster than any other religion on the planet and it's sitting in the Vatican.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you REALLY care about the next Pope?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, I'm really not. Do they believe in something for which they have no objective evidence?
    Do you? Do I? I presume you do believe that the reality is real (and not some kind of "Matrix"-style dirty trick). And that your mind is minimally adequate as a tool for naviagting this reality. So do I. Why, exactly, do we believe that? Do we have any objective evidence?



    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You cannot find a single quote from any of those people who said that they are killing anyone because their atheism commands them to do so.
    Not their "atheism", but their irrational beliefs in a whole bunch of crap that had nothing to do with religion. As Chesterton said, "Take away the faith in God, and people will not believe in nothing, they will believe in anything".

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    religion was responsible for things like the Dark Ages
    The Hellenistic civilization had flourished for a dozen of centuries, among a plethora of religions waxing and waning in its lap - along with free-thinking "atheistic" philosophers. The Great Collapse and the following Dark Ages did not arrive because the Christianity made its debut - but (in part) because the Roman State had adopted Christianity as the One and Only religion. Of course, debasement of currency, overtaxing, eventual failure to support infrastructures in the provinces, etc all were just as important.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    But as soon as you're using cult-like behavior, you're no longer being rational and irrationality is at the core of many of man's problems.
    I am hard-pressed to agree that Copernicus, or Newton, or Ivan Pavlov ( all deeply religious people) were "irrational".

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Humanity, unlike all the other animals on the planet, has the ability to override their impulses
    Yes, of course. But ask yourself, impassionately (your impulses successfully overriden): Should I treat the (apparently quite normal and well-meaning) other person's religion as a curious phenomenon worth studying and understanding, or should I scream, apriori, "barabaric superstition!" and shut my own enlightened mind tight as a clam?!

    I cannot speak for you - maybe you are the most intelligent sapient being in the whole Universe. I know I am not - not even close. Much dumber than Copernicus, Newton, or even Ivan Pavlov (OK, that is debatable - a Russian smarter than a Pole? - that goes against my most cherished beliefs... But I hope it is not too controversial to suggest that true intelligence is humble, observant, and patient?

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    Re: Do you REALLY care about the next Pope?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    We hate no one......We hate sins that people commit.....We love the sinner.
    Alright fine. I love the believers, I just hate the idiotic things they believe.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you REALLY care about the next Pope?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    We hate no one......We hate sins that people commit.....We love the sinner.

    Don't ask me why, but I somehow just don't believe ya...

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    Re: Do you REALLY care about the next Pope?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It's not going through life pissed, it's going through life actually giving a damn about what goes on in the world around you. I'm glad you think being a troll is funny. Just says something about your character.
    Troll? I think not. I was drawn to this thread by a display of silly intolerance. I am, as you might say, doing what I can to make the world around me a better place.
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    Re: Do you REALLY care about the next Pope?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Do you? Do I? I presume you do believe that the reality is real (and not some kind of "Matrix"-style dirty trick). And that your mind is minimally adequate as a tool for naviagting this reality. So do I. Why, exactly, do we believe that? Do we have any objective evidence?
    The whole solipsistic nonsense is actually very easy to disprove, but this isn't the forum for such things. Try Philosophy.

    Not their "atheism", but their irrational beliefs in a whole bunch of crap that had nothing to do with religion. As Chesterton said, "Take away the faith in God, and people will not believe in nothing, they will believe in anything".
    Which is why scientists, which are overwhelmingly atheist, are so irrational, right?

    I am hard-pressed to agree that Copernicus, or Newton, or Ivan Pavlov ( all deeply religious people) were "irrational".
    I find it funny how many people can only imagine a single label must apply to a person. Someone can be rational for some aspects of their life and irrational for others. You can stop with the logical fallacies any time, you know.

    Yes, of course. But ask yourself, impassionately (your impulses successfully overriden): Should I treat the (apparently quite normal and well-meaning) other person's religion as a curious phenomenon worth studying and understanding, or should I scream, apriori, "barabaric superstition!" and shut my own enlightened mind tight as a clam?!
    I think we've studied it long enough, it's very rare when there is anything new under the sun, especially when it comes to the classic and commonplace religions. What is it that you think you're going to learn that we don't already know?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you REALLY care about the next Pope?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Troll? I think not. I was drawn to this thread by a display of silly intolerance. I am, as you might say, doing what I can to make the world around me a better place.
    As am I, I'm pointing out the absurdities of religion, the elimination of which will, while not making the world a paradise, certainly will do something to improve the situation.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you REALLY care about the next Pope?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    As am I, I'm pointing out the absurdities of religion, the elimination of which will, while not making the world a paradise, certainly will do something to improve the situation.
    Really? In what way?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Do you REALLY care about the next Pope?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    As am I, I'm pointing out the absurdities of religion, the elimination of which will, while not making the world a paradise, certainly will do something to improve the situation.
    After they get rid of guns there will be nothing anyone can do to stop the church from encroaching on the constitution.

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    Re: Do you REALLY care about the next Pope?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    As am I, I'm pointing out the absurdities of religion, the elimination of which will, while not making the world a paradise, certainly will do something to improve the situation.
    I don't think adding to the sum total of hate helps anything.
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