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Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years old?

Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years old?

  • No, it's not wrong. We should change the law so material that old is public domain.

    Votes: 22 62.9%

  • It's technically wrong, but not really a big deal.

    Votes: 7 20.0%

  • Yes, it's wrong. The copyright owner has the right to control it, even if he's an heir.

    Votes: 5 14.3%

  • Not sure.

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Total voters
    35
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

Blue_State said:
This thread immeadiately makes me think of George Lucas. His holiday special is garbage, but he won't release it. What most people know is that you cannot see the original star wars anymore.

It is his right.
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Oh, I'm sure you can hunt those down. Never underestimate the nerd power of star wars fans.
 
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Cardinal said:
Oh, I'm sure you can hunt those down. Never underestimate the nerd power of star wars fans.
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Its on Piratebay :)
 
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PeteEU said:
Its on Piratebay :)
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...and a hundred other torrent sites.
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

Jerry said:
I think they're going about it all wrong. They shouldn't be trying to sell their music, they should use their music like a TV show, where's it what attracts the audience who the artist then enforces products to.

I don't have a passionate position on this topic one way or other.
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Either you tried typing that on your iphone or it was late and you had a couple, either way I'm not sure what you were trying to type there, but I'll assume you meant something like...actually, I can't imagine what you might have meant.
 
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No, nothing wrong with it at all, especially considering the age of the content in question. Plus, I refuse to buy something before i know i like it. Usually if i like something, i'll eventually pay for it.
 
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Cardinal said:
Either you tried typing that on your iphone or it was late and you had a couple, either way I'm not sure what you were trying to type there, but I'll assume you meant something like...actually, I can't imagine what you might have meant.
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I'm sorry you can't read. Have a nice day :2wave:
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

Baralis said:
How is it stealing if it was never stolen? I could record TV shows with a VCR and give them to my friends and they would not be stolen.
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Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

RabidAlpaca said:
For complete and total on demand ability to every show, and every movie out there, I would pay up to 50 bucks a month. So essentially, as much as I would for a full cable service.

I think most people would share that sentiment. There's plenty of money to be made, it just needs to be in a different business mdoel.
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I would gladly pay that. Gladly. I'd like that to be an a la carte option with my cable company. But if not, no matter what, I'd like it to be streaming so you can watch it on tablets, phones, laptops, whatever. Like Netflix. I like that I can start a movie on my laptop and pick it up on my Kindle.
 
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Hatuey said:
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How does that prove your case?
 
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Jerry said:
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Return of the Sith (the third installment -- not sure if that's the right title) was the worst offender of this. I think I sat through that crap for a full twenty minutes.
 
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Jerry said:
I'm sorry you can't read. Have a nice day :2wave:
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No, seriously, reread what you wrote. It's a halfbeat away from illiterate.

Try to remember that we only have what you write to go off. We can't supplement it with the voices in your head.
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

Van Basten said:
****Hammer.:lamo

HBO brings it upon themselves.
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When I think about how confounding it is to watch their shows legally, and that Game of Thrones is the most illegally downloaded show ever, all I can think of is Star Wars: "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."
 
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Cardinal said:
No, seriously, reread what you wrote.
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I did. Makes perfect sense. Treat music like we treat radio and TV shows, not as the end product itself. The purpose of radio and TV shows is to attract an audience, to generate ratings, which is then used to sell advertisement time. The radio or TV show is not the money maker, the product sold in the commercial is. Likewise the music should not be treated like the money maker, it should be used to attract an audience, and then advertisement to that audience can be sold. Pretty easy to understand.
 
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Jerry said:
I did. Makes perfect sense. Treat music like we treat radio and TV shows, not as the end product itself. The purpose of radio and TV shows is to attract an audience, to generate ratings, which is then used to sell advertisement time. The radio or TV show is not the money maker, the product sold in the commercial is. Likewise the music should not be treated like the money maker, it should be used to attract an audience, and then advertisement to that audience can be sold. Pretty easy to understand.
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Unless the music is the final product.
 
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Cardinal said:
Return of the Sith (the third installment -- not sure if that's the right title) was the worst offender of this. I think I sat through that crap for a full twenty minutes.
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The anti-pirate crowd and I aren't concerned about the same things. They will go off about theft and rights and money, whereas I just don't want the hassle.
 
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Cardinal said:
Unless the music is the final product.
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Unless the music is not the final product.
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

Luna, another good one, Tick
I think that the copyright law time frame can be improved upon...
If a man creates a song when young, he should benefit until he and or his wife pass on....even 75 years later....or a century....we live longer....and definitely need the money then...
Also, as an option, he should be able to public domain his works as he sees fit.
I doubt if our Constitution has anything to say about this, when it was designed, patents, public domain , song writing, and the INTERNET were in their infancy.
 
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Jerry said:
The anti-pirate crowd and I aren't concerned about the same things. They will go off about theft and rights and money, whereas I just don't want the hassle.
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Ditto. I have a subscription to Hulu already, which means I can watch Supernatural perfectly legally. Or...I can download the episodes and not be forced to watch the commercials or deal with possibly spotty bandwidth.
 
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Jerry said:
Unless the music is not the final product.
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Not sure how that works when the product is cd's and concert tickets.
 
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Cardinal said:
Ditto. I have a subscription to Hulu already, which means I can watch Supernatural perfectly legally. Or...I can download the episodes and not be forced to watch the commercials or deal with possibly spotty bandwidth.
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Yeah...a subscription...that's 'hassle'. No thanks, I'll get a boot leg.
 
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Cardinal said:
Not sure how that works when the product is cd's and concert tickets.
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Who even has a CD player anymore?

I don't see how concerts are harmed by pirating. Most of the people who buy concert tickets do so because they've heard the artists and want to see them live, not because that's the only way to hear that artist for the first time.
 
Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

Nope do it all the time, dang things should expire after 5 years.
 
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