View Poll Results: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years old?

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  • No, it's not wrong. We should change the law so material that old is public domain.

    28 66.67%
  • It's technically wrong, but not really a big deal.

    8 19.05%
  • Yes, it's wrong. The copyright owner has the right to control it, even if he's an heir.

    5 11.90%
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I'm just going to laugh at this
    With your screen name I wouldn't be surprised. But you can't really argue that cassettes were not bootlegged in the millions. It was such a problem that many record companies and tv corporations tried to get recording devices outlawed through legislation. iirc They even succeeded once but it was shot down by SCOTUS.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You won't get too much argument from me. Currently, my Blu-ray collections is close to 500 films and TV series, and I have probably some 200 DVDs.

    I have discovered that a number of programs I would like to buy, actually no longer exist in any viewable format. These are mostly PBS or BBC programs from decades past, some of them documentaries.

    I will say that some of this is on the distributor. Remember Tron? Before the sequel came out, I had tried to watch the film. No rental stores in my area had it. No online shops carried the digital copies. No DVDs were readily available. No VHS tapes were readily available. If I wanted to watch the film legally, I would have had to pay at least 90 dollars for the DVD, or 100+ for the VHS (all in the used marketplace, of course). I didn't pirate it, but I was dismayed at how Disney was promoting an upcoming Tron sequel, but there was no mechanism to legally purchase the predecessor without going through an incredibly pricey used marketplace.
    Last year I had a high quality boot-leg of Avengers on my computer the very day it came out to theaters.

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    With your screen name I wouldn't be surprised. But you can't really argue that cassettes were not bootlegged in the millions. It was such a problem that many record companies and tv corporations tried to get recording devices outlawed through legislation. iirc They even succeeded once but it was shot down by SCOTUS.


    uh, with digital copies, one copy can be distributed to millions of people in a few hours, and there is no issue with constant loss of quality and no need for a physical exchange. So yes, I can clearly argue a difference

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Last year I had a high quality boot-leg of Avengers on my computer the very day it came out to theaters.
    The Walking Dead on HD is also great. I actually prefer hi def, live streaming media as opposed to DVDs.

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, if they're broadcasting it on the radio or TV, they're sending it out for free, they have no right to complain if I go and get the stuff they're giving away for free from an online source.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Last year I had a high quality boot-leg of Avengers on my computer the very day it came out to theaters.
    I haven't done that ever. That's mostly because while the technology of camcorders have increased, I'm still annoyed at the lack of detail or the immense amount of blue hue. Granted, if the price is right, I think nothing can beat the physical medium or the medium with the highest resolution in the theater. I figure that if I am going to commit a fairly costly crime, at least make the bloody thing worth my while. :P
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    The Walking Dead on HD is also great. I actually prefer hi def, live streaming media as opposed to DVDs.
    The hi-def streaming is an improvement over the DVD, but nothing will beat seeing that 16 mm film on Blu. Walking dead streaming pales in comparison.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I haven't done that ever. That's mostly because while the technology of camcorders have increased, I'm still annoyed at the lack of detail or the immense amount of blue hue. Granted, if the price is right, I think nothing can beat the physical medium or the medium with the highest resolution in the theater. I figure that if I am going to commit a fairly costly crime, at least make the bloody thing worth my while. :P
    I freaking HATE cams. At that point, if I don't want to pony up the cash, or can't access a theater, I'll just wait

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I freaking HATE cams. At that point, if I don't want to pony up the cash, or can't access a theater, I'll just wait
    8-10 bucks is hardly breaking the bank to see a film in the theaters either. Folks are just lazy.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    uh, with digital copies, one copy can be distributed to millions of people in a few hours, and there is no issue with constant loss of quality and no need for a physical exchange. So yes, I can clearly argue a difference
    Ok. You can ignore that millions of copies of bootlegged cassettes were made and exchanged all you want. Doesn't change the fact that it did indeed happen. Doing so might have been a bit more complex but it still does not change the fact that it happened. You can't re-write history.
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