View Poll Results: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years old?

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  • No, it's not wrong. We should change the law so material that old is public domain.

    28 66.67%
  • It's technically wrong, but not really a big deal.

    8 19.05%
  • Yes, it's wrong. The copyright owner has the right to control it, even if he's an heir.

    5 11.90%
  • Not sure.

    1 2.38%
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    There's a twist to that. The content is now encrypted and it's not the reception that makes you a pirate, but the unauthorized and illegal use of their decryption.
    Oh yeah, I get that. My buddy had a satellite box with an unlocked card giving him all the channels. If the signals are on my property, they're mine to do with as I please.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    As a side note, this is one of my many objections to win8. Years ago most hardware and OS makers refused to roll DRM into their products. They're gradually, and quietly, doing it now (boiling the frog).
    Some people claim DRM is BIG BROTHER. And i know many dont like BB

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Diablo3 made HEAPS in DRM sales but that's because they piggy backed a cashcow plot into a adolescent fantasy and hoodwinked a nation of eager neck-beards. I don't think they will be getting away with that little trick again. Then again Lucas did it 3 times in a row. :p
    Oh yeah, that's a game I didn't buy either.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    These people ought to remember that DRM kills sales. When Sony eliminated DRM from a lot of their products, sales went up. People get pissed off when companies assume they are crooks and generally say screw it, you think I'm stealing from you, I might as well just do it.
    Yes, but that was only because the Sony DRM caused major problems when folks tried to use the content legitimately on the PC. They've made great strides in the tech. Now, with a few exceptions, the public only notices it's got DRM rolled in if they try to display pirated content.

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Oh yeah, that's a game I didn't buy either.
    You may not have but it still made heaps do to bamboozelment. You were wise not to. My initial instincts told me not to and I did anyways.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Oh yeah, I get that. My buddy had a satellite box with an unlocked card giving him all the channels. If the signals are on my property, they're mine to do with as I please.
    There's the rub, it's not the signal that's protected but the encryption/decryption.

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    There's the rub, it's not the signal that's protected but the encryption/decryption.
    And they put their encryption on my property without my consent. Tough titties.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    You would think that really old TV shows (40 years or more) would have expired copyrights, but that's often not the case. Do you believe it's wrong to download such shows from unauthorized sources such as torrents?

    Just to be clear, the question is about shows 40 years old or more which do not have expired copyrights.
    I believe intellectual rights have gotten out of hand. Yes, shows over 40 years old should be in the public domain.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Who cares if it's immoral? It's illegal.
    So when it was illegal to hide a runaway slave it didn't matter if it was moral or not?
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And they put their encryption on my property without my consent. Tough titties.
    They don't broadcast the decryption algorithm and they didn't put the decryption on your property. Subscribers rent the decryption.

    I'd guess that water and electric lines run through your property, you still have to pay for access to those services.

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