View Poll Results: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years old?

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  • No, it's not wrong. We should change the law so material that old is public domain.

    28 66.67%
  • It's technically wrong, but not really a big deal.

    8 19.05%
  • Yes, it's wrong. The copyright owner has the right to control it, even if he's an heir.

    5 11.90%
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    HBO was actually pretty smart keeping their content close to the vest. All the other channels did licensing their material to netflix accomplished was make someone else a huge player in the market. That's why netflix lost most of their content a year or two ago. Those early contracts were finally meeting their death and no content provider wanted to renew them at the original price
    I highly disagree. HBO has pissed off a LOT of people. HBO series are pirated possibly more than just about anything else. You can't even legally stream HBO series without having a cable HBO subscription. It's ridiculous, and they'll have to change their business model.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    Spotify is a commercial music streaming service providing DRM-protected content...

    I'll stop right at DRM. There's simply so much wrong with DRM
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Oh, those RIAA and MPAA asshats wouldn't think so, of course, but let's face it, all files are just 1's and 0's, it's only when those 1's and 0's are put together in a specific order that they become copyrighted. If I don't serve up those bits in that order, then I haven't transmitted that particular sequence. Like I said, the legal eagles don't care about that, but the more they tighten the screws, the more people like me who pay lots of money to keep their little empire alive start thinking maybe we should do other things with their money.
    My favorite contradiction is satellite TV. Right now the satellite companies are beaming their channels through my property (it blankets the continent). If I build a device to capture those signals they're sending onto my property, I'm breaking the law. How the hell does that work?
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I highly disagree. HBO has pissed off a LOT of people. HBO series are pirated possibly more than just about anything else. You can't even legally stream HBO series without having a cable HBO subscription. It's ridiculous, and they'll have to change their business model.
    but as you can see from some of the earlier articles, they established HBO.go as a brand. If you could have just accessed all their shows via netflix, then that brand, and tthe demand for access to it, wouldn't even exist

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    As a side note, this is one of my many objections to win8. Years ago most hardware and OS makers refused to roll DRM into their products. They're gradually, and quietly, doing it now (boiling the frog).
    These people ought to remember that DRM kills sales. When Sony eliminated DRM from a lot of their products, sales went up. People get pissed off when companies assume they are crooks and generally say screw it, you think I'm stealing from you, I might as well just do it.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    In the end there will always be content hubs because people always love suggestions. But also in the end there will be pretty much no more TV. Every TV will have internet and you can just go to whatever website you want and watch that content for that show. Then additional flat charges could be applied to "extra content" sales like all the behind the scenes stuff for super fans.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    My favorite contradiction is satellite TV. Right now the satellite companies are beaming their channels through my property (it blankets the continent). If I build a device to capture those signals they're sending onto my property, I'm breaking the law. How the hell does that work?
    You don't have to even build a device, you can go buy one that is commercially available. Screw these morons.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    My favorite contradiction is satellite TV. Right now the satellite companies are beaming their channels through my property (it blankets the continent). If I build a device to capture those signals they're sending onto my property, I'm breaking the law. How the hell does that work?
    There's a twist to that. The content is now encrypted and it's not the reception that makes you a pirate, but the unauthorized and illegal use of their decryption.

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    These people ought to remember that DRM kills sales. When Sony eliminated DRM from a lot of their products, sales went up. People get pissed off when companies assume they are crooks and generally say screw it, you think I'm stealing from you, I might as well just do it.
    Diablo3 made HEAPS in DRM sales but that's because they piggy backed a cashcow plot into a adolescent fantasy and hoodwinked a nation of eager neck-beards. I don't think they will be getting away with that little trick again. Then again Lucas did it 3 times in a row. :p
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You're joking, right? It's not.
    Yes, in actuality i am. The Supreme court has stated it's OK.

    The Supreme Court's decision in the case of Sony v. Universal City Studios, involving the home use of video recorders and the federal copyright law, determined that the former did not infringe on the latter as long as the copied material was not used for profit. By the end of 1983 there were eight million video recorders in use in the U.S.; that number would soar as the legality of home recording seemed settled. Nonetheless, the studios lobbied Congress for a law that would attach a royalty or surcharge to the sale of VCRs and blank tapes.
    However, im merely pointing out that how can it be legal to copy a TV show on to a personal device that you own (VCR) but it's illegal (unethical/immoral) when you copy something onto your personal computer. Hell, it's all transmitted over the same medium.

    This is what i dont get.

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