View Poll Results: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years old?

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  • No, it's not wrong. We should change the law so material that old is public domain.

    28 66.67%
  • It's technically wrong, but not really a big deal.

    8 19.05%
  • Yes, it's wrong. The copyright owner has the right to control it, even if he's an heir.

    5 11.90%
  • Not sure.

    1 2.38%
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    What is Spotify?
    A limited-use free service that allows for internet streaming of millions of songs. The fee tiers allow for limitless listening, "apps" to help find new music, and use on numerous devices.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Yeah, and the selection sucks. A legal service that offers every tv show I want to watch simply doesn't exist. There's too much cockblockery being done by the tv/movie industry.
    I was goign to use Hulu when it first came out, "Free TV on your computer!" So I went and signed up, and found out that the "free" part was TV that sucked that nobody watched. You had to pay for the other stuff, and even that wasn't anything to write home about.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Yeah, and the selection sucks. A legal service that offers every tv show I want to watch simply doesn't exist. There's too much cockblockery being done by the tv/movie industry.
    HBO was actually pretty smart keeping their content close to the vest. All the other channels did licensing their material to netflix accomplished was make someone else a huge player in the market. That's why netflix lost most of their content a year or two ago. Those early contracts were finally meeting their death and no content provider wanted to renew them at the original price

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    What is Spotify?
    Spotify.com

    It's sick as hell. Completely free, you can simply type in an artist, and pull up every one of their albums. You can then make your own playlists and play any song on demand any time you want.

    If you're in the US, I believe the first 6 months are commercial free. After that there's the occaisonal commercial. You can pay $5/month for zero commercials and mobile/mp3 usage.

    I have absolutely zero reason to pirate music, because I can legally listen to anything I want 24/7.

    It's MORE convenient that piracy.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    A limited-use free service that allows for internet streaming of millions of songs. The fee tiers allow for limitless listening, "apps" to help find new music, and use on numerous devices.
    So how is it any different than youtube or pandora? Other than the fee part?
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    What is Spotify?
    Spotify is a commercial music streaming service providing DRM-protected content...

    I'll stop right at DRM. There's simply so much wrong with DRM

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Spotify.com

    It's sick as hell. Completely free, you can simply type in an artist, and pull up every one of their albums. You can then make your own playlists and play any song on demand any time you want.

    If you're in the US, I believe the first 6 months are commercial free. After that there's the occaisonal commercial. You can pay $5/month for zero commercials and mobile/mp3 usage.

    I have absolutely zero reason to pirate music, because I can legally listen to anything I want 24/7.
    Interesting. I will look into this. Thanks.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    He is NOT distributing it. How do you get that? If he burned Game of Thrones onto a DVD and sold it at a flea market for $10 a disk, he's distributing it. If he watches Game of Thrones on HBO and misses an episode, and he gets it off bit torrent or wherever, and watches the episode that he missed - how is he distributing it? Distributing means taking something and selling it for profit. How is that what he's doing?

    Edited to add: I guess, technically you could consider what he's doing as distributing, if he regularly goes online and allows his HD to be leeched by others. I just don't see it as the same - I don't see it as wrong, as say, mass producing copies and selling them at a flea market. If he's just going online to see the episodes he's missed, there's nothing wrong with it.
    Because of how torrent works he's both a downloader and a distributor. I get my stuff from the usenet and ftp topsites where there is no distribution element on my part.

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I've been downloading material since ftps. So i'm not getting on some moral high horse here, just pointing out some basic facts. Also, I don't think there is a distinction in place for only partially sharing material, at least legally
    Oh, those RIAA and MPAA asshats wouldn't think so, of course, but let's face it, all files are just 1's and 0's, it's only when those 1's and 0's are put together in a specific order that they become copyrighted. If I don't serve up those bits in that order, then I haven't transmitted that particular sequence. Like I said, the legal eagles don't care about that, but the more they tighten the screws, the more people like me who pay lots of money to keep their little empire alive start thinking maybe we should do other things with their money.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    HBO was actually pretty smart keeping their content close to the vest. All the other channels did licensing their material to netflix accomplished was make someone else a huge player in the market. That's why netflix lost most of their content a year or two ago. Those early contracts were finally meeting their death and no content provider wanted to renew them at the original price
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