View Poll Results: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years old?

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  • No, it's not wrong. We should change the law so material that old is public domain.

    28 66.67%
  • It's technically wrong, but not really a big deal.

    8 19.05%
  • Yes, it's wrong. The copyright owner has the right to control it, even if he's an heir.

    5 11.90%
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Same here, I want to watch American TV but I'm in Germany, so I stream 100% of my tv via 'illegal' on demand sites. The funny thing though is, as far as I can tell, streaming from a website is not technically illegal for the user, just the company.
    that's because you're not sharing it, you're only sponging.

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    that's because you're not sharing it, you're only sponging.
    I'm putting money from ads into the hands of the pirates instead of the actors, producers, and studios. Sounds like the studios need to stop being ****s and redefine their business model to fit the demand. I can't even watch Hulu or any of the legal services because they block everyone out of the US.

    Spotify has the right business model. I haven't pirated music since I downloaded Spotify.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    again, that isn't making that copy available to millions of people instantaneously
    But it's still copyright infringement, is it not?

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Bittorrent operates on the belief that you must share the burden in uploading the files in order to have the service work. The files that you download thus force you to contribute in the distribution. This was why the music and film industry could nail individual downloaders with piracy on Bittorrent. In many other peer-to-peer programs of the past, you simply downloaded files from users who had actively uploaded the content. Those downloading the files were fine, those uploading were targeted by the industry for lawsuits. Some software of those P2P clients included the clause that you must upload your download folder at least 1 kb per second.
    I knew there was a reason why I instinctually avoided bit torrents all my life. The idea of forced sharing even if annoynomous seemed wrong. I've stream on demanded every single episode of startrek from every series though. :S Hey all I did was type in a search engine for a service that offered free viewings and never formally kept the download after the view. Oh the magic of that whole series. You gotta watch some pretty crappy commercials though. Its were "they" send all the test commercials.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I've been downloading material since ftps. So i'm not getting on some moral high horse here, just pointing out some basic facts. Also, I don't think there is a distinction in place for only partially sharing material, at least legally
    There isn't. If you are participating in the distribution then you are breaking the law even if you, me, and 100 other users are part of the hive that generates the end product. Usually they go after the big sites and maybe a sacrificial lamb every now and then it seems. I don't (not that I haven't in the past) simply because you never know what you be be loading into your computer really, I can afford to get it legally, or I just have become so disconnected from TV/Hollywood there is no desire there. I did it some to see if I wanted to buy a CD but now that is all on youtube so there really is no practical reason to download just to test drive some tracks when I can watch/listen for free legally.

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I'm putting money from ads into the hands of the pirates instead of the actors, producers, and studios. Sounds like the studios need to stop being ****s and redefine their business model to fit the demand. I can't even watch Hulu or any of the legal services because they block everyone out of the US.

    Spotify has the right business model. I haven't pirated music since I downloaded Spotify.
    you're not missing much with HULU, unless they recently changed. They play the same ****ing commercial like every five minutes.

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    But it's still copyright infringement, is it not?
    You're joking, right? It's not.
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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    But it's still copyright infringement, is it not?
    Well, as someone else pointed out, it's considered fair use to make such a copy. So legally no. I was more pointing to the obvious practical differences, and the fact that one copy can have a huge impact on the market (just look at any leaked award screener)

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

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    Re: Is it immoral to download from unauthorized sources (c) TV shows over 39 years ol

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    you're not missing much with HULU, unless they recently changed. They play the same ****ing commercial like every five minutes.
    Yeah, and the selection sucks. A legal service that offers every tv show I want to watch simply doesn't exist. There's too much cockblockery being done by the tv/movie industry.
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