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    Re: Should willfully ignorant people be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post

    I persoanlly think something could be devised like the quiz people get to get their citizenship........My wife is Korean and spoke very little English but when she took her test for citizenship she aced it....she was so proud we framed it and it still hangs over our fireplace.....
    That's awesome, congrats to your wife and to you for landing an awesome wife! but no, the vast majority of Americans would be stuck voteless for years, if they had to pass a citizenship test to vote. the test would have to be a simple measurement of having made a reasonable effort to learn from multiple sources (to prevent bias) on the issues and candidates they're currently voting on.

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    Re: Should willfully ignorant people be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Don't want to disappoint ya, but I just looked and I happen to have a right wing to go along with my left wing. That makes me an independent wing.

    I don't want teachers in any type of school teaching religious values...period. I'd prefer all schools to be secular. But...we have a First Amendment....thank goodness. I would have never sent my children to a sect school...even if that was all that existed.

    I don't want teachers defining a test to be given to determine who votes and who doesn't. Apparently AmericanWoman76 wouldn't at all mind...and would in fact advocate allowing "private school teachers" control who votes.

    Back to you my find right wing friend...
    You do know those things happen in public schools right. There have been many incidents of teachers trying to sway their students to vote or back Obama.......... Like I said earlier I went to Catholic School and so did my 4 children and I am the only one who did not get a college degree.............I rectified that when I retired from the Navy and now have a BS,

    Oh and sorry if I offended you.......
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    Re: Should willfully ignorant people be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanWoman76 View Post
    That's awesome, congrats to your wife and to you for landing an awesome wife! but no, the vast majority of Americans would be stuck voteless for years, if they had to pass a citizenship test to vote. the test would have to be a simple measurement of having made a reasonable effort to learn from multiple sources (to prevent bias) on the issues and candidates they're currently voting on.

    THank you.........No, no not a citizenship test just a basic quiz...For example
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    1. what is the name of the 2 major partys in this country?

    2. Who are the Candidates for the 2 parties?

    Something really basic...........If someone could not read it would be given to them orally.
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    Re: Should willfully ignorant people be allowed to vote

    not THAT basic, all the most willfully ignorant persons "know" that democrat/republican (choose one) are the bad guys, republican/democrat (choose one) are the bad guys, vote for everyone with democrat/republican (choose one) next to their names and vote the way democrat/republican (choose one) blogs say to vote, or else (insert sci-fi horror here), this kind of thinking is what needs to be screened out. they need to demonstrate knowing stuff about the candidates and issues, THE OPPOSITE OF "which team they're rooting for" democrat/republican (choose one)

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    Re: Should willfully ignorant people be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanWoman76 View Post
    not THAT basic, all the most willfully ignorant persons "know" that democrat/republican (choose one) are the bad guys, republican/democrat (choose one) are the bad guys, vote for everyone with democrat/republican (choose one) next to their names and vote the way democrat/republican (choose one) blogs say to vote, or else (insert sci-fi horror here), this kind of thinking is what needs to be screened out. they need to demonstrate knowing stuff about the candidates and issues, THE OPPOSITE OF "which team they're rooting for" democrat/republican (choose one)

    You would be surprised how many people can't answer those questions...I watch Letterman sometimes and he would send people out on the street and ask really simple things and the people could not answer them. I know it sounds crazy but its true..........
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    Re: Should willfully ignorant people be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanWoman76 View Post
    Should willfully ignorant people be allowed to vote? Or should voter be required to document that they have done a reasonable effort at researching candidates and issues to obtain a voter I.D.? Should equal use of both Democrat and Republican news sources be part of the definition of reasonable effort? Should people who are unemployed have to spend more time on research than the employed, to qualify as a reasonable effort? with each person's search documentation attached to their identity and subject to a challenge, and the way they voted remaining anonymous? Should we make it easier to obtain voter I.D. than it presently is, by eliminating proof of current residence as a requirement, which poses an unnecessary hardship on the poor and minorities?

    Yes. Allowing voting to be strictly dominated by highly politicized voters is not an accurate reflection of the country.

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    Re: Should willfully ignorant people be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post

    You would be surprised how many people can't answer those questions...I watch Letterman sometimes and he would send people out on the street and ask really simple things and the people could not answer them. I know it sounds crazy but its true..........
    The voting age could be lowered to 8, and a simple test could still find better voters than the average person who's 18 years and up and born in America. I'm not advocating that, I'm just making an observation.

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    Re: Should willfully ignorant people be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I see it 5-4 Conservative right now as Kennedy usually votes with the Conservatives. you lose again.
    If it were 5-4 right now Navy....it would have already happened. Conservatives were hoping to stack the court with at least 1 more right-wing activist. Obama's re-election ensured that wouldn't happen. And it isn't going to get any better for you. Hilary's election will cause you guys to go backwards on your efforts to change the court.
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    Re: Should willfully ignorant people be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post

    That is a low blow my left wing friend........The only people who would want religion taught in public schools are your radical Islamic friends.
    That isn't true at all. The radical right-wing so-called "Christians"/evangelicals have been trying to push their perverted brand of Christianity into the public arena including schools for the past several decades.
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    Re: Should willfully ignorant people be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That isn't true at all. The radical right-wing so-called "Christians"/evangelicals have been trying to push their perverted brand of Christianity into the public arena including schools for the past several decades.
    To you I am one of those right wing christians and the last thing I want is religion taught in the Public Schools nor do I know anyone who does.........Now teaching the religion you love radical islam, sharia law is another matter..........You lose again.
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