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Thread: Business owners: does a businesses' social policies matter in your trading?

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    Re: Business owners: does a businesses' social policies matter in your trading?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    There have been times I've been required to do business with individuals I find unpleasant; in those cases I also suck it up and plow on. But it's different, I think, when an entire organization is essentially a political front for causes I find repugnant. Any contribution to them then becomes inexorably linked to those views.
    about the only thing I have to say to that is .. I find the judgment you have levied against mainstream conservatism to be a bit suspect... "repugnant", I think, goes much too far.
    I'm certainly no fan of mainstream conservatism or mainstream contemporary liberalism... but I can't, in good conscience, find them " repugnant".

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    Re: Business owners: does a businesses' social policies matter in your trading?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    about the only thing I have to say to that is .. I find the judgment you have levied against mainstream conservatism to be a bit suspect... "repugnant", I think, goes much too far.
    I don't think Focus on the Family, or hostility not only to gay marriage and abortion but to civil unions and contraception, are 'mainstream' views anywhere anymore.
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    Re: Business owners: does a businesses' social policies matter in your trading?

    In related news, it's always hard to believe when a small business owner actually hires or retains an Obama supporter. It's like inviting Colonel Sanders into the hen house.

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    Re: Business owners: does a businesses' social policies matter in your trading?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I don't think Focus on the Family, or hostility not only to gay marriage and abortion but to civil unions and contraception, are 'mainstream' views anywhere anymore.
    yeah, they are.... they might not be in the majority, but they are mainstream nonetheless.

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    Re: Business owners: does a businesses' social policies matter in your trading?

    In a word - no.

    As an individual investor and consumer, I would avoid shares and products of a company that makes regular donations to the Focus on the Family, or the NumbersUSA, or MoveOn. Just like I am trying to steer clear of merchandize made in countries with seriously illiberal regimes.

    I don't feel virtuous about it (the marginal losses of revenue are not likely to affect the bosses who make policies, but could very well cost ordinary workers their jobs or wage increases) - I am just following my disgust, to be frank.

    As an entrepreneur, however, I have obligations to my investors and co-workers. And I hope that what I am tinkering with will make some modest positive difference in lives of many people. These considerations override my personal political preferences.

    (Well, I have to admit I haven't faced such dilemma so far, knocking the wood).

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    Re: Business owners: does a businesses' social policies matter in your trading?

    If lawyers were unwilling to represent people whom they do not approve of, the legal system would not work.

    If doctors refused to treat people whom they do not approve of, the healthcare system would not work.

    If businesses turn down business that they could have passed the profits on to the workers or hired more workers, then they are being stupid, not high minded.

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    Re: Business owners: does a businesses' social policies matter in your trading?

    Business is business. I deal with pretty much anybody that isn't a criminal and has chosen to conduct their business as a business. I've done work for plenty of hardcore liberals and still do. Some I talk politics with and others I don't, it depends on the person. If MoveOn wanted me to do some work for them and their checks didn't bounce I'd do it. I've lost clients before over ideology and it hasn't broken my heart because they are doing what they believe is the right thing.

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    Re: Business owners: does a businesses' social policies matter in your trading?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Do you do anything constructive, LowDown? Besides plagiarize bad German philosophers, I mean.
    Oh yes. And were I to refuse to serve silly liberals I'd be in bad shape financially. I find it better not to even ask.

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