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Which (if any) of these guns in the classroom policies would you support?

Which (if any) of these guns in the classroom policies would you support?


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1. Any teacher who wants to pack heat in her classroom may simply do so without any restrictions.
2. A teacher must pass a simple gun safety course created by the school, then she's allowed to take a gun to her class.
3. A teacher must get her state's concealed carry permit; then she's allowed a gun in her classroom. If her state has no such permit, the school creates a school carry permit and a test she must pass.
4. A teacher must go through rigorous training program on gun safety, gunfights, criminology, etc. similar to what a police cadet would have to pass. At that point she's allowed a gun in her classroom and her pay is doubled as a result of her extra skill and responsibility.
5. I do not support any policy that allows a teacher to have a gun in her classroom.

(Note: I'm using the feminine pronouns here, but the teacher could also be male.)

I think teachers should get concealed carry class, once or twice a year training course, maybe a requirement that they have been teaching a couple of years or so that way we know they can handle the crap that kids may do.
 
1. Any teacher who wants to pack heat in her classroom may simply do so without any restrictions.
2. A teacher must pass a simple gun safety course created by the school, then she's allowed to take a gun to her class.
3. A teacher must get her state's concealed carry permit; then she's allowed a gun in her classroom. If her state has no such permit, the school creates a school carry permit and a test she must pass.
4. A teacher must go through rigorous training program on gun safety, gunfights, criminology, etc. similar to what a police cadet would have to pass. At that point she's allowed a gun in her classroom and her pay is doubled as a result of her extra skill and responsibility.
5. I do not support any policy that allows a teacher to have a gun in her classroom.

(Note: I'm using the feminine pronouns here, but the teacher could also be male.)
I'd support whatever the local consensus was. I don't believe it's in the purview of either the Fed or the State.

However, I'm inclined to believe we should be teaching children about peaceable resolutions to problems instead of instilling an armed populace attitude. Gun training and attitudes should be taught at home, not at school. Kids have enough problems with their own violent tendencies, we don't need to encourage that in any way.
 
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I don't want to sit in a classroom with an armed teacher, no thank you.
 
I'd support whatever the local consensus was. I don't believe it's in the purview of either the Fed or the State.

However, I'm inclined to believe we should be teaching children about peaceable resolutions to problems instead of instilling an armed populace attitude. Gun training and attitudes should be taught at home, not at school. Kids have enough problems with their own violent tendencies, we don't need to encourage that in any way.

Politicians never focus on the actual problems and therefore, "instilling an armed populace attitude" instead of teaching children is a side-effect. I agree with gun talk should be left to the family so, all of the counter-productive, over extreme reactions to children who may have something possibly similar in shaped to a gun; whose reasoning phase hasn't begun, needs to stop. Zero tolerance is absurd when dealing with pre-teens.
 
Politicians never focus on the actual problems and therefore, "instilling an armed populace attitude" instead of teaching children is a side-effect. I agree with gun talk should be left to the family so, all of the counter-productive, over extreme reactions to children who may have something possibly similar in shaped to a gun; whose reasoning phase hasn't begun, needs to stop. Zero tolerance is absurd when dealing with pre-teens.


As egregious as the school killings are, there has been way to much media attention to these events. They are a reflection of mental culture, not gun culture. I don't want a teacher with a gun making students feel intimidated. It is definitely not a problem with a bureaucratic solution. No guns in schools. No armed guards in schools. Metal detectors at each entry is OK.
 
Option #3 comes closest to my position. So long as the state has a CCW permit which the instructor obtains and they inform the school administration that they are carrying on the premises, I don't believe any additional testing is necesary.
 
We already have county sheriff officers at all of our schools.
 
Out of curiosity, why?

I don't particularly feel safe with some person packing heat in my classroom, who's job is to teach me. A cop is a different story. But teachers and guns don't go together.

It's a personal thing though, I guess it's different for you and that's fine.

Schools should invest in better security staff though. The security at my old highschool was a joke.
 
I don't particularly feel safe with some person packing heat in my classroom, who's job is to teach me. A cop is a different story. But teachers and guns don't go together.

It's a personal thing though, I guess it's different for you and that's fine.

Schools should invest in better security staff though. The security at my old highschool was a joke.

I think it's funny that you believe that you'd even know, unless they openly discuss having a firearm at their side.

The most responsible firearm owners are the ones that you'll never know are firearm owners.
 
The most responsible firearm owners are the ones that you'll never know are firearm owners.



I know a number of responsible gun owners that fit that statement so I'm not big on assumptions like that, but the point is teachers are there to teach and that's it. :shrug:
 
As egregious as the school killings are, there has been way to much media attention to these events. They are a reflection of mental culture, not gun culture. I don't want a teacher with a gun making students feel intimidated. It is definitely not a problem with a bureaucratic solution. No guns in schools. No armed guards in schools. Metal detectors at each entry is OK.

Media definitely part of the problem; however, the problem with 'no guns in school' (which in an ideal world I'd agree) is that you cannot keep absolutely all guns out. Criminal intent will always find a way; therefore, its is wise to have some responsible person with relatively equal tools to defend. It is a must to provide that protection to the kids. The kids do not need to know who is carrying and where any weapons may be. Kids have short attention spans, they will not be thinking about armed teachers all day.

Also, metal detectors are a good start but easy to circumvent like uniformed security. I believe Adam broke out and entered through a window and Columbine learned the security guard's routine.
 
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I voted for policy #6. -- "A teacher can pack heat if, and only if she can recite the entire lyrics to 'Cat Scratch Fever' witout making a mistake.
 
I know a number of responsible gun owners that fit that statement so I'm not big on assumptions like that, but the point is teachers are there to teach and that's it. :shrug:

Well I'm here to do taxes, keep books, and manage assets. When a nut with a gun comes into the equation, you have to adjust. If you get the walk light at an intersection and an SUV is barreling down the road toward you, do you keep walking because the light is in your favor, or do you watch out for the dangerous variable put into your midst?
 
1. Any teacher who wants to pack heat in her classroom may simply do so without any restrictions.
2. A teacher must pass a simple gun safety course created by the school, then she's allowed to take a gun to her class.
3. A teacher must get her state's concealed carry permit; then she's allowed a gun in her classroom. If her state has no such permit, the school creates a school carry permit and a test she must pass.
4. A teacher must go through rigorous training program on gun safety, gunfights, criminology, etc. similar to what a police cadet would have to pass. At that point she's allowed a gun in her classroom and her pay is doubled as a result of her extra skill and responsibility.
5. I do not support any policy that allows a teacher to have a gun in her classroom.

(Note: I'm using the feminine pronouns here, but the teacher could also be male.)

Number 1. Though that should be essentially standard for a adults.
 
None. I'm sorry but it's lunatic in my view. I don't even trust cops with weapons, not when they're tazing 10 year olds, much less teachers who have to put up with anarchy everyday and probably would be tempted to use the weapon. Also I'm against #1 especially because in 6th grade we put...some sharp object into the teacher's desk drawer as a prank. Now imagine if we saw a gun just casually left in there. That kind of thing would happen somewhere.
 
I don't like the idea of teachers having a gun. I can support security, police (as long as it doesn't strain city resources), hiring a returning vet to guard....

Having an educator packing heat just screams wrong to me.
 
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