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    re: Does carrying a gun increase your sense of empowerment? [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Funny thing about that though, and not saying how much it does or doesn't apply to guns. A friend of mine told me about when he was taking martial arts for a number of years. Essentially the more he trained and the more sparring experience he got, the more confident he became in most situations (I can attest to this from personal experience in karate). He walked away from such close involvement in martial arts however as he realized that he was getting into disproportionately more fights than he ever would beforehand. Of course what was happening was instead of walking away from or avoiding situations that carried increased danger, his greater confidence was allowing him to run headlong into those situations.

    Getting back on track, I'm wondering if the heightened sense of empowerment (or as Goshin might put it, "adequacy to handle potential threats") that comes with a gun inaccurately increases the sense of weakness you'd have if you were suddenly left without it?


    I can't speak for everyone, only myself. I spent half my life training in martial arts and then was a cop in the pre-Tazer jump-in-and-get-im era.... so being unarmed doesn't really make me any less dangerous, just "shorter ranged".

    But, I don't go looking for trouble and will avoid it if I can... and frankly I think that is mainly a function of age and experience, as opposed to armament or training.

    Young men are more accepting of risk, and more eager to prove themselves. I no longer feel I have anything to prove and am merely interested in going on my way unmolested with minimum bother... if ignoring some A-hole and walking on is the lowest-effort way of doing so, then that is what I do.

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    re: Does carrying a gun increase your sense of empowerment? [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Or the people who think the gun in their purse/belt is going to stop a mugger/rapist who is 10 feet away. Trained police officers have a 21-foot rule for the "gun vs knife" scenario, and some think 30 feet is more realistic. In the time it takes for a trained officer to pull a gun from a holster (a device designed for convenient gun access, incidentally, unlike a bloody purse), aim, and fire accurately, an attacker can cross 21-30 feet. A surprised civilian? Hell, I'm a freaking couch potato and I'm crossing half a football field before you get the gun out of your purse, lady. Waistband gun guy? Hell I don't even need a weapon, you'll probably shoot yourself trying to scramble the thing from underneath your jacket.

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    The reality of street crime is very different from what most people with limited experience think it is. Identifying the potential threat and not letting that threat get "inside your decision curve" is key.

    On those occasions where I've either drawn my gun, or started to draw it, I knew a serious situation was brewing and began my draw before anyone else reached for a weapon. It is a question of recognizing threat behavior and being mentally prepared to respond in the correct manner.

    The face-off fast-draw is a very rare situation in the real world. If you ever find yourself in a face-off fast-draw situation... you already screwed up by failing to recognize the developing threat, and you're now playing catch-up and damage-control.

    Tactics.

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    re: Does carrying a gun increase your sense of empowerment? [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Makes me feel like a bigger man, if you know what I mean.
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    re: Does carrying a gun increase your sense of empowerment? [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Living and working in a society where you don't fear an encounter with a stranger, especially one with a bulge in their pants, is much less stressful.
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    re: Does carrying a gun increase your sense of empowerment? [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Way over my head Marc...Sorry
    That's about the last place you want a guy with a bulge in his pants

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    re: Does carrying a gun increase your sense of empowerment? [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    That's about the last place you want a guy with a bulge in his pants


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    re: Does carrying a gun increase your sense of empowerment? [W:112]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I can't speak for everyone, only myself. I spent half my life training in martial arts and then was a cop in the pre-Tazer jump-in-and-get-im era.... so being unarmed doesn't really make me any less dangerous, just "shorter ranged".

    But, I don't go looking for trouble and will avoid it if I can... and frankly I think that is mainly a function of age and experience, as opposed to armament or training.

    Young men are more accepting of risk, and more eager to prove themselves. I no longer feel I have anything to prove and am merely interested in going on my way unmolested with minimum bother... if ignoring some A-hole and walking on is the lowest-effort way of doing so, then that is what I do.
    My question wouldn't apply to someone with daily, real-world experience, since the level of protection a gun brings him has been thoroughly measured and understood. I was thinking of people who are not in law enforcement or the military.

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    re: Does carrying a gun increase your sense of empowerment? [W:112]

    "Sense of empowerment"? - no. Living in a safe neighborhood, I rarely carry. When I do (going on a trip to the mountains, for example), I consider it a chore that needs to be done. Like filling my tank with gas or having a first aid kit handy.

    I am not what you would call a "gun enthusiast": I view owning guns and knowing how to use them as a civic obligation, like jury duty

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    re: Does carrying a gun increase your sense of empowerment? [W:112]

    I carry a handgun on a regular basis and have done so for more than a dozen years. I carry in places and situations as varied as you could ever imagine from dinners in four star restaurants to walks in the park. I have to say that carrying a firearm most definitely does NOT increase my sense of empowerment. The fact that I am carrying a firearm. with the capability to end someone's life in an instant serves as a constant reminder of the responsibility I have to avoid and/or deescalate a confrontation rather than escalating it. It provides a focus for me to do everything possible to never need to use it rather than as a focus to want to use it.

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    re: Does carrying a gun increase your sense of empowerment? [W:112]

    No, my enormous penis makes me feel empowered. So I don't carry a gun.
    So follow me into the desert
    As desperate as you are
    Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven
    And all the little pigs have God

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