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Thread: Should retired government workers get SS

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    Should retired government workers get SS

    My brother in law just retired from a cushy gov job where he made 90K per year and openly bragged about how he spent most of the day shooting the breeze with other gov workers or reading books. He is now getting 70% of his pay and social security. It seems to me he is double dipping, getting a very generous retirement plan and SS. IMO if you are getting a tax payer funded retirement you are getting enough and should not get SS too.

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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    You pay into social security....so after retirement you should get that money you paid into it...back...that is the entire plan of social security.
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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    My brother in law just retired from a cushy gov job where he made 90K per year and openly bragged about how he spent most of the day shooting the breeze with other gov workers or reading books. He is now getting 70% of his pay and social security. It seems to me he is double dipping, getting a very generous retirement plan and SS. IMO if you are getting a tax payer funded retirement you are getting enough and should not get SS too.
    I voted yes.

    My mom gets civil service & SS totaling 1550 per month.

    She paid into both therefore deserves both.

    In brother in laws case he was obviously overpaid!

    All joking aside I would be in favor of rolling SS into the civil service ie

    you paid in 5,000 before going into govt-then thats into your pension

    5,000 divided by years or whatever. That way you're not cheated but

    the $20.00 added to civil service won"t break the bank.

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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    You pay into social security....so after retirement you should get that money you paid into it...back...that is the entire plan of social security.
    Small correction to that.... you don't get back just what you paid into it. So the taxpayer is actually paying twice - the continued salary or portion there of AND social security.
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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    My brother in law just retired from a cushy gov job where he made 90K per year and openly bragged about how he spent most of the day shooting the breeze with other gov workers or reading books. He is now getting 70% of his pay and social security. It seems to me he is double dipping, getting a very generous retirement plan and SS. IMO if you are getting a tax payer funded retirement you are getting enough and should not get SS too.
    Was he working for state, local or federal government?

    As a military retiree, I don't get to double dip. When I reach SS age, my retirement gets reduced by the amount that SS pays. So technically, I get SS, but not really.

    No matter how much you get paid in other retirement, you should get your SS. You spent a lifetime paying it, you should get it.
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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    You pay into social security....so after retirement you should get that money you paid into it...back...that is the entire plan of social security.
    If the presumption is that you get out of SS because you pay into it, why then should you get SS if you pay nothing into it?

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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Small correction to that.... you don't get back just what you paid into it. So the taxpayer is actually paying twice - the continued salary or portion there of AND social security.
    You would think we could fix that little discrepancy...you should only get back what you pay into it.
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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    If the presumption is that you get out of SS because you pay into it, why then should you get SS if you pay nothing into it?
    You shouldn't. You get back what you paid into it...that's it. It would ensure that Social Security wasn't an entitlement.
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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    My brother in law just retired from a cushy gov job where he made 90K per year and openly bragged about how he spent most of the day shooting the breeze with other gov workers or reading books. He is now getting 70% of his pay and social security. It seems to me he is double dipping, getting a very generous retirement plan and SS. IMO if you are getting a tax payer funded retirement you are getting enough and should not get SS too.
    If you paid into both then yes you should get both. If you didn't pay into social security then you shouldn't get it. Don't want people to collect SS then don't take it from them at all.
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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    cut the pensions, not the SS.

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