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Thread: Should retired government workers get SS

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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Nobody should get SS that doesn't need it.


    And who determines that?
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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Not jealous, resentful is a better word. I resent that I paid for him to do virtually nothing for 25 years and now I will pay for his cushy gov retirement package. This kind of crap is breaking this country.
    Its not SS but over taxation and out of hand spending on failed programs.......
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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    So let me pose this question in a different way. SS is going broke and adjustments will have to be made. Should their be an across the board equal cut in benefits or should those who get a luxurious gov pension and SS get a bigger benefit cut than those of us who depend exclusively on SS?
    No, they're two entirely separate issues no matter how many times you try to combine them in your dishonest presentations. A restructuring or removal of government pensions is a option. Looking at SS on a basis of an individuals other forms of retirement income...be it from the government, from their own saving, or from a private business...could be reasonable. However, simply attempting to tie it singularly to government employees retirement is asinine.

    It will destroy our economy and all you retired or soon to be retired gov employees laughing all the way to the bank won't have much to laugh about when your entire retirement check plus your SS check won't buy a loaf of bread.
    Actually, I'm not laughing all the way to the bank because of my retirement pension, nor will I be stumbling if the government can no longer fund them. Unlike people who just want to whine about others utilizing gross exaggerations as if they're the norm, I actually give a damn about the notion of Personal Responsibility. Beyond my government pension, I'm also heavily investing into my Thrift Savings Program (government equivalent of a 401K) as well as investing along with my wife in a private IRA complete separate from either of our jobs. Not out of our 30's yet, we've already put down a plan for a reasonable 20 years of retirement without taking Social Security or my government pension into account. IF those things that we'll be paying into for decades actually still exist in some form by the time I retire, then that'll be bonus on top. But I worry about myself and making sure my family and I will be okay rather than jealously worrying about exaggerated situations others may have.

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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    And who determines that?
    The same person that cares little what you think Mr. Over-sized words...me.


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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    The thing that most people don't understand is that most government workers pay into their pension program. It is not a freebie given to them. As for SS....you still have to meet the minimum quarters of work over and above your government service in order to be eligible for SS and the amount you receive is reduced due to the pension you receive.
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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Inflation risk is a function of government printing too much money.
    LOL! Space cadet economics at work. Price levels move independently of the money supply. Inflation risk is a perceived probability that price levels will rise in the future. Nobody votes on it. It's a standard market risk that the supposed "risk-takers" have tired of and want to dump off on you instead. Sounds like you are ready to be a good little draft-animal and have a few more bones in your back broken in order to help out those who are already quite wealthy.

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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    So let me pose this question in a different way. SS is going broke and adjustments will have to be made. Should their be an across the board equal cut in benefits or should those who get a luxurious gov pension and SS get a bigger benefit cut than those of us who depend exclusively on SS?

    Another thing to remember is these pensions are so ridiculous because of gov unions. This is a perfect example of how they are making America go broke. SS AND a gov union pension and most of you are OK with it. No wonder I live on a mountain side with no freakin neighbors! No wonder I'm stocking up on guns ammo and food, you guys are NUTS
    Government workers have no choice but to pay into their pension plan, just like they have no choice but to pay into SS. They should not be denied their SS any more than someone who paid into the penson plan of GE or AT&T. And the pensions are not ridiculous. They are comparable to private sector plans as they should be. You clearly have a lump in your bed over people who have worked long enough and planned well enough to retire. Get over it and get a job.
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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Retired as a GM-13 and moved on to a more profitable career in the private sector.
    Either "never do today what you can put off until tomorrow" was enthusiastically embraced in the private sector, or this guy wasn't quite the useless troll you tried to painty him as. Just plain BS either way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    His successor made GM-14 and is still employed there as the supervisor of a small turkey farm. The next guy was much better at political infighting and moved even further up the management ladder after turning the division over to another incompetent.
    LOL! There was a lot of intrigue and infighting over the position of small turkey farm manager? That's not quite the headline federal job series, you know, and of course GM-13 and GM-14 were ranks under the PMRS system that was abolished by Congress in 1993.

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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I agree. It is a shame that some have poor work ethic. Those type of people should have to work on a farm or ranch. Maybe they would learn the meaning of a days pay for days work.
    Unsuccessful work situations arise from a variety of sources. Management with a brain seeks to resolve such circumstances through things like training, reassignments, and counseling. Removal of an employee should be the last resort. There was obviously some potential identified that caused the guy or gal to get hired in the first place. Scrapping him or her is simply writing off the entire investment that has been made in this person when other steps might yield the sort of positive return that had originally been anticipated. Such an approach probably wouldn't play so well in shoot-em-up Cowboy World though.

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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    So you have no qualms about receiving more money than you contributed, based on someone else working. Gotcha!
    You are lacking in something called insight. Only putting money in a coffee can or stuffing it under a mattress returns the same amount that you deposited. Did you know that mortgage lenders receive back MORE than the amount that they lent to a homebuyer? Why don't you complain about that?

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