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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Just going by what I was told. He is still on the health care plan too.
    You can take both your health and life insurance coverage into retirement. You of course have to continue paying for them. Same with dental, vision, and long-term care policies if you have any of those.

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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    I am also a retired federal employee. When I first started, my manager made a point of telling me that there is nothing in government that can't wait until tomorrow.
    Hmmm. How did HIS career work out? Otherwise what I'm hearing here is some more good old DMV and fish stories.

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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    My brother in law just retired from a cushy gov job where he made 90K per year and openly bragged about how he spent most of the day shooting the breeze with other gov workers or reading books. He is now getting 70% of his pay and social security. It seems to me he is double dipping, getting a very generous retirement plan and SS. IMO if you are getting a tax payer funded retirement you are getting enough and should not get SS too.
    If you paid into it you should get it.....Sounds like you are a little jealous to me.
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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That study does not include all federal employees
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    So when a person's contributions go to pay for someone else's withdrawl, and the workforce grows and more contributions are made to support those who came before them, what would YOU call it?
    Social Security or financially stable
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If you paid into it you should get it.....Sounds like you are a little jealous to me.
    Not jealous, resentful is a better word. I resent that I paid for him to do virtually nothing for 25 years and now I will pay for his cushy gov retirement package. This kind of crap is breaking this country.

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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Not jealous, resentful is a better word. I resent that I paid for him to do virtually nothing for 25 years and now I will pay for his cushy gov retirement package. This kind of crap is breaking this country.
    Resentful and jealous are synonyms
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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Resentful and jealous are synonyms
    To me jealous means at some level you would like to be the person you are jealous of and I would not trade places with this guy for any amount of money. Lets look at our two lives and compare results as a commentary on the state of this nation. I worked hard and produced for this country and at one point even employed people. I have my SS coming to live on along with what I managed to squirrel away in a 401K and IRA's. I can retire comfortably but really need the SS to make ends meet. The government worker kicked back most of his life doing virtually nothing and contributing virtually nothing to society but now he gets SS and a very extravagant retirement package along with SS. SS is in trouble and the first people to be dropped from the plan should be gov workers who already get plenty with their retirement so those of us who really need it don't lose it. This country is hiring more gov employeees, paying them more and giving them better retirement all the time as the working people that make this country prosperous get less and less and have to pay their counterparts in the gov more and more. This upside down economic system is doomed too fail, the people who spend their lives sucking on the government tit will be the downfall of America.

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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    I am also a retired federal employee. When I first started, my manager made a point of telling me that there is nothing in government that can't wait until tomorrow. Thereafter I had numerous occasions to observe people industriously and conscientiously working away at jobs which should never have been assigned - the equivalent of digging a hole in the morning and filling it up in the afternoon. Others who had ideas for becoming more productive could never get a hearing. And there was a core of competent people who made it their business to serve the public because they believed in what they were doing.

    It is extremely difficult to fire an incompetent federal employee. It will take a large chunk of the supervisor's time for most of a year because he/she has to prove to a review board that said employee has received every chance at remedial education, counseling, reassignment, you name it - and it still hasn't worked. However there is a good reason for this, because federal managers can be just as petty and mean as anyone you have ever met. The practical solution is known as the Turkey Farm: a poor manager is put in charge of poor employees and the office is assigned to produce useless reports and meaningless appreciations until they retire.
    Guess I had a different experience. In my career I saw or was involved in the removal of five employees. Reason for dismissal ranged from misuse of govt credit card, misuse of govt. property, taking a govt. vehicle on an unauthorized trip (personal trip for days), unable to pass fitness standards.

    It got harder as time went on to fire someone. The reason imo was the trend in govt towards political correctness , accepting the "its not my fault" mentality, and "you owe me" attitude.

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    Re: Should retired government workers get SS

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    Not actually. As a CSRS employee, you can retire with no penalty at age 55 with 30 years of service. At that point your pension is 56.25% of the average of your three highest years of salary. The percentage increases by 2% per year for each year you continue to work after that. You would need just 14% to reach 70% which is seven more years on top of 30, for a total of 37 years. Still a pretty long time. You can't go any higher than 80% of the average high three, so after 42 years of service, you're just stuck there.


    Often they either are fired or the incredible wisdom of resigning is pointed out to them. Nobody loves a lummox.

    Your correct for CSRS. I was basically making an assumption the brother in law did not put that many years in. There are a few who max out, put that is more the execption than the rule, imo.

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