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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    It depends on the justice system and the expected value of accuracy. If 1 in 1,000,000 conviction is wrongful then I'd support the immediate executution of them. Too many people expect the justice system to be perfect when, in most aspects, it's not an exact science. With the system as it is now, more than one additional innocent person is going to be killed on average by 999,999 murderers. Many disagree, but I prefer the government take 1 innocent life by mistake than let criminals take 1,000 intentionally.

    Criminals like James Holmes don't even deserve a trial. If a mass murderer is caught in the act, a criminal trial is a waste of time, money and effort on a piece of scum. He deserves to suck on the end of a double barrel shotgun as the trigger is pulled.
    There is a difference between justice and retribution. You're advocating the latter, which is a knee jerk response to anger. Even those who we know are guilty must receive justice because of the others for whom guilt is not so clear cut.

    Allow people to arm themselves so they can protect themselves against criminals. Spend public funds to ensure a speedy and responsive justice system when criminals are apprehended. Have checks and balances to reduce abuses. That is what a civil society must do.
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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    The State has no right to take a life, not in its own name, and surely not in mine.
    So police officers may not fire on a suspect if that person is threatening their lives or the life of a citizen?
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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    So police officers may not fire on a suspect if that person is threatening their lives or the life of a citizen?
    There's a difference. When a crook is in the process of committing a violent crime, a cop is justified in using lethal force. The public (and the cop himself) is in immediate danger. When a murderer is locked up, he's no longer a threat. He's removed from society, and escapes from prison are extremely rare.

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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Or we could join the civilized world and no longer have executions.
    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanWoman76 View Post
    I lost count of how many times a person has been convicted of murder, and then years late, new evidence proved the convicted person was innocent. I can't for the life of me, imagine why anyone would want to kill that many innocent people.

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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    The way it is now, a person who gets convicted of murder and sentenced to death spends years on death row going through numerous appeals at cost to the state. What if instead we had the gallows, the electric chair, a firing squad, the gas chamber, or the lethal injection chamber standing by for sentencing? If the murderer is sentenced to death, he or she is immediately taken out for execution. Would you support this policy?
    I would be up for this - but not in every case.

    Perhaps they could hold a second (sentencing type) trial to determine if the jury feels it is warranted and justified.

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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    The way it is now, a person who gets convicted of murder and sentenced to death spends years on death row going through numerous appeals at cost to the state. What if instead we had the gallows, the electric chair, a firing squad, the gas chamber, or the lethal injection chamber standing by for sentencing? If the murderer is sentenced to death, he or she is immediately taken out for execution. Would you support this policy?
    No. They have to be able to appeal their case. I'm not an expert on law, I don't know why it takes so long for appeals to go through, but doing away with the appeal process altogether and executing a person upon sentencing is just wrong.
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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    The way it is now, a person who gets convicted of murder and sentenced to death spends years on death row going through numerous appeals at cost to the state. What if instead we had the gallows, the electric chair, a firing squad, the gas chamber, or the lethal injection chamber standing by for sentencing? If the murderer is sentenced to death, he or she is immediately taken out for execution. Would you support this policy?
    Absolutely not.

    Of the 4,578 capital judgments finally reviewed on direct appeal, 1,885-or 41%-were overturned based on serious error.
    Columbia University, School of Law - Liebman Study

    Are you ok with killing that many innocent people? Or at the very least, people whose true offense doesn't trigger the death sentence?

    We need to just do away with this barbaric practice all together. The error rate is too high, the cost is too high, and vengeance is not the purpose of the justice system.

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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Absolutely not.


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    Are you ok with killing that many innocent people? Or at the very least, people whose true offense doesn't trigger the death sentence?

    We need to just do away with this barbaric practice all together. The error rate is too high, the cost is too high, and vengeance is not the purpose of the justice system.
    As I said earlier, I'm not. If you look at the votes you'll see I voted against it. I posted this to see if anyone would actually vote for something this extremist.

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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    As I said earlier, I'm not. If you look at the votes you'll see I voted against it. I posted this to see if anyone would actually vote for something this extremist.
    I intended that as a universal "you." Sorry about that.

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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    So police officers may not fire on a suspect if that person is threatening their lives or the life of a citizen?
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