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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    While I wouldn't support immediate execution. I would change the whole process. Make it cost less and reduce the number/time of appeals. Also, it should be done by public hanging, not lethal injection hidden away somewhere.
    I don't feel it should be made public. It's sad enough that I feel it's necessary to have the death penalty, we don't need to feed the public any more horror than they already get from video games, TV and the garbage from Hollywood.
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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Many disagree, but I prefer the government take 1 innocent life by mistake than let criminals take 1,000 intentionally.
    You are plainly no mathematician if you think that bit of rubbish is the pertinent equation.

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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    I don't support the death penalty and I definitely do not support just killing them on the spot either.

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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    No, not immediate execution. I would, however, reduce the amount of time for appeals.
    So you favor plans to expand and streamline the judiciary than. That's where all the delays originate, you know. The deadlines that actually apply within the appeals process itself are often too short and inflexible to allow for any consideration so trivial as that of justice.

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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Like over in Iran, public executions, where you see people hanging from a large crane or a high place in front of crowds...Thousands of people watching as if it were a sporting match, shouting and cheering like savages. Great idea, bring the wife and kids along to have a look too...
    You can still watch in the US, so all that is different is the amount of viewers and the location.

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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    No, not immediate execution.

    I would, however, reduce the amount of time for appeals.
    Along this line... this prompted a question to pop into my head.

    Not so much the time for appeals, but the equity or inequity of levels of legal representation. The way it is now, if the state wants you bad enough, money is no object and they will spend obscene amounts of money and run every test and hire the best "experts", and so on, just to get you in prison. The defense, unless the defendant is already wealthy, gets squat. They get a schmuck court-appointed attorney whose primary interest lies in having you agree to a plea deal where you agree to never accuse them of malpractice. Seriously, this inequity probably has a great deal to do with the resulting incorrect verdicts.

    Should we be willing to equally fund the defense as we are willing to fund the prosecution?

    Before we knee-jerk our response, think about the long-term implications. Even for those where cost is paramount, it still might be cheaper in the long run to better fund the defense AND get more accurate verdicts, which would lessen the need for monetary settlements down the road.
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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Like over in Iran, public executions, where you see people hanging from a large crane or a high place in front of crowds...Thousands of people watching as if it were a sporting match, shouting and cheering like savages. Great idea, bring the wife and kids along to have a look too...
    The wife and kids better have a good look, 'cause if there's a weak meal or someone talks to someone outside the family, they're next.

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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    I wouldn't support any executions, period.

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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    The way it is now, a person who gets convicted of murder and sentenced to death spends years on death row going through numerous appeals at cost to the state. What if instead we had the gallows, the electric chair, a firing squad, the gas chamber, or the lethal injection chamber standing by for sentencing? If the murderer is sentenced to death, he or she is immediately taken out for execution. Would you support this policy?
    I don't know if you're seriously proposing the idea, or if you're just posing the question to stimulate conversation. Some people do honestly think along these lines, though, and all I can do is shake my head and wonder at the depth of their naivete in blindly trusting the accuracy of our government and justice system.
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    Re: Would you support instant executions upon sentencing for murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    The way it is now, a person who gets convicted of murder and sentenced to death spends years on death row going through numerous appeals at cost to the state. What if instead we had the gallows, the electric chair, a firing squad, the gas chamber, or the lethal injection chamber standing by for sentencing? If the murderer is sentenced to death, he or she is immediately taken out for execution. Would you support this policy?

    There was a time when I might have said yes... but that was mainly due to frustration, when the men who murdered my best friend spent 11 and 14 years respectively doing their appeals before being executed for their senseless and needless crime.

    But while I do think decade-plus-long appeals are excessive, no I cannot support instant execution upon conviction. Our track record at correct convictions is under question, and any citizen has a right to legal due process, including reasonable appeals, before suffering the ultimate and irrevocable penalty of death.


    Now, I do call into question a lot of these so-called errors in death penalty cases. I've talked to people who work in the field, and in many cases the inability to confirm via DNA typing is a result of poor sample storage in the days when DNA testing was either unavailable or very new... such as tissue samples being stapled to paper reports without any effort to preserve same for later testing, because it didn't occur to anyone at the time that later testing would be needed. We have not been able to do DNA testing for all that long you know.

    So anyway, while I doubt that our conviction rates on captial crimes are actually as bad as the worst detractors claim, it is certainly the case that we are fallible and capable of error, and that no one should be put to death without a chance to appeal.

    It just shouldn't take 15 years.

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