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    Re: Do you think Jodi Arias is guilty or not guilty?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    nah I think its a case where she was a lot more into him than he was to her. She was a piece of tail for him and she thought he loved her. Hell hath no fury like a psychotic woman scorned
    Apparently not. Anyone who would react in such a way is definitely a psycho and had major problems with self esteem to begin with.

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    Re: Do you think Jodi Arias is guilty or not guilty?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Do you think this has damaged her account in the eyes/ears of the jury?
    I do. First and foremost, she has already admitted to killing him. She doesn't deny that she stabbed him and slit his throat, though she doesn't agree on the killing sequence. She says she shot him first accidentally, in self defense. The forensic pathologist (I think it was) disagrees. Definitely what killed him were stab wounds to the chest. Some were so deep they chipped bone. At one point, the prosecutor, in a pretty slick move, showed her a picture of the bathroom sink and mirror which were covered with blood. At the time the prosecutor was asking about the cuts on her hands. She had previously said that she cut them on broken glass in the kitchen a few days before. Later, she said it was on a broken glass where she was working as a bartender. He maintained she cut her hands while she was furiously stabbing Alexander.

    He asked if she sought medical treatment for the cuts. She replied no that they weren't that bad. BAM! The he says, looking at the picture of the sink and mirror, that indeed the blood wasn't hers, it was his and it was spurting out of him. Why was he standing there looking at himself with mortal wounds? He wasn't. It leads me to believe that she first stabbed him there and not on the floor as she claims.

    It's hard to know what the jury is thinking, but judging from the almost 200 questions they asked (the judge read the questions), they aren't buying self defense.

    She claims she was taking pictures of him in the shower at his request. That seems to be true. She was using his new camera. She almost dropped it at one point and, she claims, he called her a "****ing idiot" and said that "even a 5 year old could do a better job". Next, she claims, he jumped out of the shower and said, "****ing kill you, bitch." He then grabbed her. They rolled around on the floor. She got away and rather than run out of the house and get in her car - which was already packed and ready - she ran into the closet, climbed on a shelf, grabbed his gun, which she didn't know how to shoot and shot him, in seconds. The shooting, stabbing, throat slitting, whatever the sequence, lasted about a minute.

    Why not run down the stairs and out the door?










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    Re: Do you think Jodi Arias is guilty or not guilty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I do. First and foremost, she has already admitted to killing him. She doesn't deny that she stabbed him and slit his throat, though she doesn't agree on the killing sequence. She says she shot him first accidentally, in self defense. The forensic pathologist (I think it was) disagrees. Definitely what killed him were stab wounds to the chest. Some were so deep they chipped bone. At one point, the prosecutor, in a pretty slick move, showed her a picture of the bathroom sink and mirror which were covered with blood. At the time the prosecutor was asking about the cuts on her hands. She had previously said that she cut them on broken glass in the kitchen a few days before. Later, she said it was on a broken glass where she was working as a bartender. He maintained she cut her hands while she was furiously stabbing Alexander.

    He asked if she sought medical treatment for the cuts. She replied no that they weren't that bad. BAM! The he says, looking at the picture of the sink and mirror, that indeed the blood wasn't hers, it was his and it was spurting out of him. Why was he standing there looking at himself with mortal wounds? He wasn't. It leads me to believe that she first stabbed him there and not on the floor as she claims.

    It's hard to know what the jury is thinking, but judging from the almost 200 questions they asked (the judge read the questions), they aren't buying self defense.

    She claims she was taking pictures of him in the shower at his request. That seems to be true. She was using his new camera. She almost dropped it at one point and, she claims, he called her a "****ing idiot" and said that "even a 5 year old could do a better job". Next, she claims, he jumped out of the shower and said, "****ing kill you, bitch." He then grabbed her. They rolled around on the floor. She got away and rather than run out of the house and get in her car - which was already packed and ready - she ran into the closet, climbed on a shelf, grabbed his gun, which she didn't know how to shoot and shot him, in seconds. The shooting, stabbing, throat slitting, whatever the sequence, lasted about a minute.

    Why not run down the stairs and out the door?
    Sounds like she was in some kind of psychotic rage or something. Geesh! I don't believe her story at all. Too many holes and contradictions. How did his body get BACK into the shower for one thing? Because I think he was found in the shower, wasn't he?

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    Re: Do you think Jodi Arias is guilty or not guilty?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    How is their sex life relevant to the murder case? Sounds like they just want to sensationalize it or something.
    The salaciousness of it all! Frankly, I've become tired of hearing it in testimony. I'm certain most of the jury is sick of seeing crotch shots, erect penis, sex posing. I don't think it has helped her. Of course we have no idea what the jury is like. Some are obviously conservative. You can tell by some of the questions.

    But how do you select a jury knowing that the trial will involve graphic sexual testimony.

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    Re: Do you think Jodi Arias is guilty or not guilty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    The salaciousness of it all! Frankly, I've become tired of hearing it in testimony. I'm certain most of the jury is sick of seeing crotch shots, erect penis, sex posing. I don't think it has helped her. Of course we have no idea what the jury is like. Some are obviously conservative. You can tell by some of the questions.

    But how do you select a jury knowing that the trial will involve graphic sexual testimony.

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    First question. Have you ever had a Tootsie Roll Pop up the ass?"
    I wonder how many people would answer THAT question honestly?!

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    Re: Do you think Jodi Arias is guilty or not guilty?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Sounds like she was in some kind of psychotic rage or something. Geesh! I don't believe her story at all. Too many holes and contradictions. How did his body get BACK into the shower for one thing? Because I think he was found in the shower, wasn't he?
    She dragged him back to the shower. She admitted that or didn't deny it. I think she said she couldn't remember but admitted that no one else was there to drag him. But the guy was dead weight, literally. She is a petit woman. It took no small effort to drag him.

    Why did she drag him back? I missed that part of the testimony. I'll bet she said she doesn't remember.










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    Re: Do you think Jodi Arias is guilty or not guilty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    She dragged him back to the shower. She admitted that or didn't deny it. I think she said she couldn't remember but admitted that no one else was there to drag him. But the guy was dead weight, literally. She is a petit woman. It took no small effort to drag him.

    Why did she drag him back? I missed that part of the testimony. I'll bet she said she doesn't remember.
    Why on earth would she do that anyway? What would be the purpose? Good Lord what a nut case!

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    Re: Do you think Jodi Arias is guilty or not guilty?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Why on earth would she do that anyway? What would be the purpose? Good Lord what a nut case!
    I don't know. I can't figure that one out myself. But she was methodical and the prosecution proved that IMHO. The prosecutor was able to get her to admit that after the murder she took the time to delete pictures of herself, even though it was his new camera and not one she was familiar with. That same person who had the forethought and took the time to delete pictures also dragged him back to the shower. There had to have been a reason.

    She didn't just kill him and beat feet to Utah - where she made sure that she had prearranged a date with a guy and where they had passionate kissing and rolled around on each other, but no sex. In other words, there is no chance they guy wasn't going to forget that she was there and what time and yada yada. No, this lady knew what she was going to do and she knew what she wanted to do after she killed him.










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    Re: Do you think Jodi Arias is guilty or not guilty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I don't know. I can't figure that one out myself. But she was methodical and the prosecution proved that IMHO. The prosecutor was able to get her to admit that after the murder she took the time to delete pictures of herself, even though it was his new camera and not one she was familiar with. That same person who had the forethought and took the time to delete pictures also dragged him back to the shower. There had to have been a reason.

    She didn't just kill him and beat feet to Utah - where she made sure that she had prearranged a date with a guy and where they had passionate kissing and rolled around on each other, but no sex. In other words, there is no chance they guy wasn't going to forget that she was there and what time and yada yada. No, this lady knew what she was going to do and she knew what she wanted to do after she killed him.
    She was probably always a psycho and it was only a matter of time before she snapped.

    Now - does she say that he physically beat her too? Because I don't see the sexual anecdotes equaling abuse if the acts were consensual.

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    Re: Do you think Jodi Arias is guilty or not guilty?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    She was probably always a psycho and it was only a matter of time before she snapped.

    Now - does she say that he physically beat her too? Because I don't see the sexual anecdotes equaling abuse if the acts were consensual.
    She claims that he hit her on the neck once. He backhanded her while he was driving and she dodged the shot to her face and he hit her neck - she says. Also, she claims that he choked her once to the point she passed out. I think there were one or two other similar or less instances and claims of verbal abuse.

    She kept a daily journal that no one read but her. It was rather mundane as might be expected. Daily journals probably aren't that interesting except for the person who writes them. She does mention sex and Travis this and Travis that. She mentioned petty things, good things and bad things. She never mentioned Alexander choking her to the point that she passed out, though she does have journal entries that day. Her testimony that he choked her was not corroborated in her journal or in any other manner. She didn't tell anyone. She didn't seek medical treatment. She didn't take a picture of the bruise marks. No one remembers seeing any bruises. She didn't tell him to kiss sweet feck all, adios mother****er. She didn't call the police. She didn't text him later and say "I'm getting a peace bond on your violent ass." Nothing. I think the next day she gave him a bj on the front porch.










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