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    Re: Should The U.S.Government Use Drones,On Terrorist In the USA,That Are Not U.S.Cit

    On American soil, law enforcement is required to always try to take suspects alive. Only if the suspect posses an immediate and potentially fatal threat is lethal force justified. Drone strikes are unacceptable because they currently only have lethal weaponry, which means that any situation where they would be practically useful couldn't be justified legally. Reconnaissance is the only reasonable use of drones in their current state. A taser or judo-bot for subduing suspects non-lethally would be okay if someone invents them in the future.

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    Re: Should The U.S.Government Use Drones,On Terrorist In the USA,That Are Not U.S.Cit

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I voted no. I don't really believe non-citizens have rights.However this can lead us down the slippery slope of it being used on Americans and if these drone strikes are like those in other countries innocent bystanders can be harmed and the property of innocent people can be damaged as the result of a drone strike.
    If in this country legally, they have most of the same rights we do.

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    Re: Should The U.S.Government Use Drones,On Terrorist In the USA,That Are Not U.S.Cit

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    If in this country legally, they have most of the same rights we do.
    According to both the text of the U.S. Constitution and historical precedent dating from the policies of the Washington Administration, anyone who can be legally defined as a 'person' enjoys all the rights of the U.S. Constitution minus those explicitly reserved to citizens (such as voting).

    That includes all human beings.
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    Re: Should The U.S.Government Use Drones,On Terrorist In the USA,That Are Not U.S.Cit

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas View Post
    If a terrorist attacker is holding up in a building, and the U.S. authorities can't talk him out because he's not and American.He may be from Afghanistan,Iraq,Turkey.Should drones be used ?
    If a terrorist is holed up in a building, would you have it bombed by an F-15E? It's the same thing.

    Terrorists fall under DHS. They send their guys in to neutralize the threat. Take him alive, aerate his ass, doesn't matter, but you don't bomb US civilians. There's no reason for it, there's no excuse for it. The US isn't the federal government's own private little war zone, and they better keep it that way.
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    Re: Should The U.S.Government Use Drones,On Terrorist In the USA,That Are Not U.S.Cit

    Humans should stop terrorism the best way they see fit. Pity how we've chosen to go about it so far.

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    Re: Should The U.S.Government Use Drones,On Terrorist In the USA,That Are Not U.S.Cit

    No, civilian agencies shouldn't have drones for anything other than surveillance.
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    Re: Should The U.S.Government Use Drones,On Terrorist In the USA,That Are Not U.S.Cit

    Okay to kill someone without due process who isn't a citizen? Gee, due process would be required for it to be accurately determined whether the person is a citizen. There are currently about 5 million hispanics in America who are citizens who are commonly referred to as not citizens, and at least 3 million more going through the citizenship process who are commonly referred to as not citizens. Also, about a half million immigrants of other races face the same problem of it being disputed whether they are citizens. Is it okay to kill someone on U.S. soil because they appear not to be a citizen, when in fact due process is required to accurately determine their citizenship status? If you're reading this, you're not a citizen. Boom. Oops, that was a citizen after all. well let's just sweep that under the rug....

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    Re: Should The U.S.Government Use Drones,On Terrorist In the USA,That Are Not U.S.Cit

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas View Post
    If a terrorist attacker is holding up in a building, and the U.S. authorities can't talk him out because he's not and American.He may be from Afghanistan,Iraq,Turkey.Should drones be used ?
    I suppose if all law enforcement walked off the job and left town and if they can't get their hands on a nuclear weapon, go for the drone.

    I'm guessing, though, if it was a government owned building, filled with unionized public servants, the US authorities would wait him out.

    Who knew Americans were becoming so deranged that they would try to invent scenarios to justify giving the power to murder people within the US borders to the President of the United States. Think about it - why limit it to terrorists? Why not drone a building held by bank robbers? Kidnappers? Pro-life protestors? Who's next?

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    Re: Should The U.S.Government Use Drones,On Terrorist In the USA,That Are Not U.S.Cit

    just think about the current legal definition of suspected terrorists according to DHS. Every American Veteral of a foreign war is on that list of suspected terrorists. Now say it's okay to kill a suspected terrorist who isn't a citizen, without due process. 1 in 4 American Veterans of foreign wars don't have immediate proof of citizenship , due process would be required for hem to have a chance to prove they are citizens. Kill by drone attack, suspected terrorists who aren't citizens, without due process? Great, the Government will save millions on veteran's benefits, and Congress can have another payraise. Yep, it passes the brilliant-idea test, it results in Congress getting a payraise.

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    Re: Should The U.S.Government Use Drones,On Terrorist In the USA,That Are Not U.S.Cit

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanWoman76 View Post
    just think about the current legal definition of suspected terrorists according to DHS. Every American Veteral of a foreign war is on that list of suspected terrorists. Now say it's okay to kill a suspected terrorist who isn't a citizen, without due process. 1 in 4 American Veterans of foreign wars don't have immediate proof of citizenship , due process would be required for hem to have a chance to prove they are citizens. Kill by drone attack, suspected terrorists who aren't citizens, without due process? Great, the Government will save millions on veteran's benefits, and Congress can have another payraise. Yep, it passes the brilliant-idea test, it results in Congress getting a payraise.
    Good morning AW76.

    Why would any American Veteran be on such a list? And who made such a horrible decision? We need to support our troops, not put them on a list that gives them a bad name. One of my uncles died defending this Country, and somebody decided men like him might be potential terrorists? What is happening in DC? Give me a break!

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