View Poll Results: Which side of the GOP will you support?

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Thread: The GOP Civil War: Choose a side.

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    Re: The GOP Civil War: Choose a side.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Those TEA Partiers that tend to be heard the most are the ones that were picked up with Bachmann.
    "Heard" because they fit so perfectly into stereotypes both the msnbcs (look at these racist homophobe troglodytes!) and the foxes (look at these red-meat conservatives, no fancy-pants libertarians here!) are working so hard to sustain.

    (In Massachusetts, it nearly came to blows between the Greater Boston Tea Party and its affiliates all around the state - and the bachmannized johnny-come-later Mass Tea Party Coalition last spring:

    Greater Boston Tea Party - For Immediate Release 4.11.12

    Boston April 11, 2012 ---In keeping with the Greater Boston Tea Party's tradition of welcoming all that want to preserve our Constitutional freedoms, we will be neither endorsing nor attending the rally on the Boston Common scheduled for Sunday, April 15, 2012. In fact, we encourage tea party activists to avoid the event. Sponsored by an unfamiliar "Mass Tea Party Coalition", the lack of communication and collaboration with established tea party organizations concerns us that this is an organization bent on damaging the good name of the tea party movement.
    For nearly three years, Greater Boston Tea Party has been strongly focused on the serious fiscal issues facing the Commonwealth and this country. Our organization does not take positions on social issues, such as gay marriage or abortion. While these issues are important to many people, including some of our members, they do not apply to our mission of advocating for personal responsibility and individual Liberty.

    The Mass Tea Party Coalition has a radically different view on tea party activism. Their main focus appears to be the above social issues, as evidenced by the speakers they have chosen for their rally, including two well known anti-gay activists. The coalition claims to represent 40 groups but there is little evidence of this being accurate. We know of at least one legitimate Tea Party group that has asked repeatedly to be removed from the "coalition", but to no avail. Their unprofessional behavior and unwillingness to communicate with other established tea party organizations are distressing but to be expected as part of political activism.

    "We are fortunate that the majority of the independent tea party organizations in Massachusetts have agreed to come together and share our collective message of preserving the Constitution and the principles of good governance therein", said Christine Morabito, president of the Greater Boston Tea Party. "On April 15, the Greater Boston Tea Party is proud to be joining with the Worcester County Tea Parties for their 4th annual Tax Day Rally. The Worcester group has proven to be an earnest, honorable grass-roots organization, and does a fine job of representing the conservative center of the state."


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    Dual Tea Party rallies in Boston, Worcester highlight split within movement - Metro - The Boston Globe

    Except every single one of my friends back in MA knew about the Greater Boston TP (whether they approved or not) - and not a single one ever heard about the Mass TP Coalition - until that week in April.
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    Re: The GOP Civil War: Choose a side.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    So you don't agree with John McCain's statement that Rand Paul was catering to Libertarian college students in their dorms ?...........
    I don't agree with "John McCain".

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    Re: The GOP Civil War: Choose a side.

    McCain who is always against anything that limits the size, power, involvement, or funding of our already bloated military? Say it isn't so!


    I would have to side with Libertarians.

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    Re: The GOP Civil War: Choose a side.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    it feels to me like the Koch Brothers are trying to win control of the corporate conservative agenda by making an end run with the social conservatives
    The Koch Brothers - the pro-immigration, pro-gay rights, pro-marijuana-legalization, anti-war etc Koch Brothers are making that end run? Are you sure?

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    Re: The GOP Civil War: Choose a side.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Me too, I will be darn if I will ever vote for the parties that have caused all the problems this countries face today. Neither has a workable solution to the problems. Both owe their heart and soul to those who donate all the money for them to run their campaigns, the special interests, lobbyist, corporations, wall street, super pacs, huge big money donors, and on and on. The people do not donate their hundreds of millions just because they believe in a cause, they do so for favorable legislation and tax breaks, incentives, subsidies. A lot of these corporations and wall street firms give to both sides just in case the incumbent loses, the challenger will already owe them. Good for you my friend.

    Yes, they are both two sides to the same corporatist coin. I was a straight ticket GOPer up until Baby Bush's last term. Then I just seen the light I suppose. The GOP's "rugged individualism" slogan was only for the wee people and not the monied elite. They can latch on to the government teet all they want, but you (I'm assuming) and I Middle Classers, we're suppose to shun government and take care of ourselves and fall on our swords if need be to stay "rugged".

    I'm fine with all that mind you, I can take care of me and mine just fine. It has to be for everyone however and not the select few.

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    Re: The GOP Civil War: Choose a side.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I don't agree with "John McCain".
    Have you read any of Ayn Rand's books or seen either of the Atlas Shrugged movies, and if you did, what did you think of them ?..............

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    Re: The GOP Civil War: Choose a side.

    I snicker in advance...

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    Re: The GOP Civil War: Choose a side.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Have you read any of Ayn Rand's books or seen either of the Atlas Shrugged movies, and if you did, what did you think of them ?..............
    I've read Atlas Shrugged in its entirety and have attempted to read a few of her other "works" I find her to be possibly the worst writer EVER to be published and wish to sue her estate for the weekend I can't get back that I spent wasting on her frivilous......................................... ............................fiction.

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    Re: The GOP Civil War: Choose a side.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Most of the old men you talk about were brought in during the Reagan era. They are more Reaganite than the tea party.
    They have been in DC too long, they have become fat, lazy and corrupted by wealth and power.

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    Re: The GOP Civil War: Choose a side.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    I snicker in advance...
    noted and shared...

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