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    Helping Jose

    You have probably seen these commercials to help some poor kid in South America where they claim just a dollar a day will change a child's life. It tugged at my heart strings so I called for more info. They sent me a bio of this kid from a very poor family with eight kids. They said that if I helped feed him he could grow up to someday have a family of his own. It occurred to me that all I was doing by helping little Jose was enabling a culture that has to many kids per family too even feed. They need to learn to live within their means and by giving Jose money I was just helping to perpetuate a culture that needs to change. Give Jose money so he can grow up and have more kids than he can feed? WTF is that about. Anyway I didn't join the charity. So I wonder how others here feel, are you helping or hurting when you sign up for this program.
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    Re: Helping Jose

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You have probably seen these commercials to help some poor kid in South America where they claim just a dollar a day will change a child's life. It tugged at my heart strings so I called for more info. They sent me a bio of this kid from a very poor family with eight kids. They said that if I helped feed him he could grow up to someday have a family of his own. It occurred to me that all I was doing by helping little Jose was enabling a culture that has to many kids per family to even feed. They need to learn to live within their means and by giving Jose money I was just helping to perpetuate a culture that needs to change. Give Jose money so he can grow up and have more kids than he can feed? WTF is that about. Anyway I didn't join the charity. So I wonder how others here feel, are you helping or hurting when you sign up for this program.
    I understand what you mean. In some of those dirt-poor countries, people have multiple kids to use as slave labor - much like America did 300 years ago, where large families were essentially producing farmhands.

    I won't send money over there for that. If I'm going to send charity, it's going to be for Americans.

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    Re: Helping Jose

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You have probably seen these commercials to help some poor kid in South America where they claim just a dollar a day will change a child's life. It tugged at my heart strings so I called for more info. They sent me a bio of this kid from a very poor family with eight kids. They said that if I helped feed him he could grow up to someday have a family of his own. It occurred to me that all I was doing by helping little Jose was enabling a culture that has to many kids per family to even feed. They need to learn to live within their means and by giving Jose money I was just helping to perpetuate a culture that needs to change. Give Jose money so he can grow up and have more kids than he can feed? WTF is that about. Anyway I didn't join the charity. So I wonder how others here feel, are you helping or hurting when you sign up for this program.
    I may be overly cynical but it seems that these charities

    spend more on bs ads,and salaries than on actually helping.

    I also agree that to me too many kids and not enough

    resources is a problem waiting to happen!

    I also prefer helping in my community in


    the US of A then helping foreigners.

    Not necessarily right but thats my feeling.


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    Re: Helping Jose

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You have probably seen these commercials to help some poor kid in South America where they claim just a dollar a day will change a child's life. It tugged at my heart strings so I called for more info. They sent me a bio of this kid from a very poor family with eight kids. They said that if I helped feed him he could grow up to someday have a family of his own. It occurred to me that all I was doing by helping little Jose was enabling a culture that has to many kids per family to even feed. They need to learn to live within their means and by giving Jose money I was just helping to perpetuate a culture that needs to change. Give Jose money so he can grow up and have more kids than he can feed? WTF is that about. Anyway I didn't join the charity. So I wonder how others here feel, are you helping or hurting when you sign up for this program.
    I think you're helping, although I don't know how much of one's donation is actually going to the people it's intended to help. I don't do it myself -- though I don't use your rationale to make that decision. I generally donate every year through an organization that provides, say, a flock of geese or a goat to a family in a Third World Country. This seems like more ongoing help than dollars, in my opinion. Unfortunately, I don't remember the name of the organization right now.

    Here's one that does pretty much the same thing: World Vision Donations: Gift Catalog
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    Re: Helping Jose

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I think you're helping, although I don't know how much of one's donation is actually going to the people it's intended to help. I don't do it myself -- though I don't use your rationale to make that decision. I generally donate every year through an organization that provides, say, a flock of geese or a goat to a family in a Third World Country. This seems like more ongoing help than dollars, in my opinion. Unfortunately, I don't remember the name of the organization right now.

    Here's one that does pretty much the same thing: World Vision Donations: Gift Catalog
    Interesting link, thanks.

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    Re: Helping Jose

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You have probably seen these commercials to help some poor kid in South America where they claim just a dollar a day will change a child's life. It tugged at my heart strings so I called for more info. They sent me a bio of this kid from a very poor family with eight kids. They said that if I helped feed him he could grow up to someday have a family of his own. It occurred to me that all I was doing by helping little Jose was enabling a culture that has to many kids per family too even feed. They need to learn to live within their means and by giving Jose money I was just helping to perpetuate a culture that needs to change. Give Jose money so he can grow up and have more kids than he can feed? WTF is that about. Anyway I didn't join the charity. So I wonder how others here feel, are you helping or hurting when you sign up for this program.
    You have a good point. It almost reminds me of this Sam Kinison clip

    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Helping Jose

    Why take my word for it?


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    Re: Helping Jose

    What is too often ignored, IMHO, are the obscene salaries/benefits of the "executives" of these charities. Quite a few make more than the POTUS. Also much of your contribution goes to advertising simply to get more contributions. There needs to be a law passed that defines net money spent on the advertised purpose of each "charity" per dollar of gross donations recieved.

    snopes.com: Executive Salaries in Charities

    Top 25 Compensation Packages from the Charity Rating Guide

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8LH...UVk/edit?pli=1
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    Re: Helping Jose

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You have a good point. It almost reminds me of this Sam Kinison clip

    OK so that made me LMAO!

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    Re: Helping Jose

    Damn. Jimmy beat me to it. Just barely.

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