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Helping Jose

Are you helping or just enabling by giving Jose money

  • You are helping, give him the money you tightwad

    Votes: 5 25.0%
  • You are just enabling an unsustainable culture

    Votes: 15 75.0%

  • Total voters
    20
The easiest and most sensible way to fix this would be to adjust subsidies.

To help control crop prices, some farmers are actually paid by the gubmint to not plant. We should find farms that are subsidized to not grow, but instead give them that money to plant edible crops that are immediately passed on to the "poor". Since they are probably not consumers anywhere in the chain (except in the "free" section of it), it wouldn't be a disruption to use what those farms reap and immediately supply food to repair a need.
 
You have probably seen these commercials to help some poor kid in South America where they claim just a dollar a day will change a child's life. It tugged at my heart strings so I called for more info. They sent me a bio of this kid from a very poor family with eight kids. They said that if I helped feed him he could grow up to someday have a family of his own. It occurred to me that all I was doing by helping little Jose was enabling a culture that has to many kids per family too even feed. They need to learn to live within their means and by giving Jose money I was just helping to perpetuate a culture that needs to change. Give Jose money so he can grow up and have more kids than he can feed? WTF is that about. Anyway I didn't join the charity. So I wonder how others here feel, are you helping or hurting when you sign up for this program.

I wouldn't send a dime... not because I don't want to help, but because half of the "charities" don't actually send that money to these needy people. They keep over half of it in order to make them selves richer and "spread the cause". There are a few genuine ones out there though that I donate too every time, like St. Judes children hospital for example.
 
I do donate to St. Jude's because, like Lightning, that's one of the few charities I feel safe about the vast majority of proceeds actually making it to its stated destination.

I'm not willing to buy another Porsche for United Way's CFO.
 
I do donate to St. Jude's because, like Lightning, that's one of the few charities I feel safe about the vast majority of proceeds actually making it to its stated destination.

I'm not willing to buy another Porsche for United Way's CFO.

I have heard good of them. I donate to Easter Seals because they are supposed to be pretty efficient. We also give stuff to the animal shelter store and my wife volunteers to walk dogs if that counts.:lol: Somehow I think notquiteright doesn't give anything to anybody except a dose of s***.
 
I believe by law only 10% of donated money has to actually go to the cause.
 
A related topic...

I am tired of business after business - at checkout, through a fast-food lane, even Paypal checkout - asking "would you like to give $1 to xxxxxx charity?"

The company can, in fact, keep virtually all of that money while at the same time claim 100% of it as how much money THEY give to a worthy cause.

My answer is ALWAYS "no."
 
Saying that desperately poor people should live within their means is the most asinine thing I've yet heard on this site...you've got to have a full belly and an empty head to say it.
 
A related topic...

I am tired of business after business - at checkout, through a fast-food lane, even Paypal checkout - asking "would you like to give $1 to xxxxxx charity?"

The company can, in fact, keep virtually all of that money while at the same time claim 100% of it as how much money THEY give to a worthy cause.

My answer is ALWAYS "no."

I like doing it when I get to sign something l can tape to the window. It's my ego thing.

"That's right, baby. I'm that giving of a guy." *wink*
 
I like doing it when I get to sign something l can tape to the window. It's my ego thing.

"That's right, baby. I'm that giving of a guy." *wink*

So I'm not the only person that does that.
 
So I'm not the only person that does that.

Nope. One dollar tells the ladies that I'm a giver. Women want proof, not just first-person claims.

I also have a picture on my phone of my friend's dog that got hit by a car and she had to take to a vet. I claim him as an abused stray I rescued.
 
Nope. One dollar tells the ladies that I'm a giver. Women want proof, not just first-person claims.

I also have a picture on my phone of my friend's dog that got hit by a car and she had to take to a vet. I claim him as an abused stray I rescued.

Gipper... you're my hero
 
Ever heard the story "The Old Man and the Starfish"?
 
Maybe you need to do more research.
Charity CEO Job that Pays Over 500k a Year #4: St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital

St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital helps find cures for children with cancer and other deadly diseases. It is primarily supported by donations. These donations help pay the salary for the CEO, John P. Moses. As of June 2008, John Moses' compensation was $589,833 a year.

There are charities where nobody gets paid a dime. I donate to those.



I do donate to St. Jude's because, like Lightning, that's one of the few charities I feel safe about the vast majority of proceeds actually making it to its stated destination.

I'm not willing to buy another Porsche for United Way's CFO.
 
Maybe you need to do more research.
Charity CEO Job that Pays Over 500k a Year #4: St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital

St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital helps find cures for children with cancer and other deadly diseases. It is primarily supported by donations. These donations help pay the salary for the CEO, John P. Moses. As of June 2008, John Moses' compensation was $589,833 a year.

There are charities where nobody gets paid a dime. I donate to those.

I'm fine with that. For a charity of that size, a CEO making just over a half million isn't incredibly lavish.

I'm sure there are some charities where employees are completely voluntary. They're probably also few and far between. If someone wants to work for nothing, more power to 'em. My time is money though.
 
I (speaking only for myself) have a problem with Charity administrators who are so well rewarded. I don't object to paying executives but my tolerance ends at about $60K.

Still, I respect your generosity and the St. Jude mission. St. Jude is probably the best loved charity in Las Vegas.



I'm fine with that. For a charity of that size, a CEO making just over a half million isn't incredibly lavish.

I'm sure there are some charities where employees are completely voluntary. They're probably also few and far between. If someone wants to work for nothing, more power to 'em. My time is money though.
 
I (speaking only for myself) have a problem with Charity administrators who are so well rewarded. I don't object to paying executives but my tolerance ends at about $60K.

Still, I respect your generosity and the St. Jude mission. St. Jude is probably the best loved charity in Las Vegas.

If a CEO of a charity that size will work for 60K, I admire him greatly.

It'd be FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR too much work for me, especially at that wage.
 
When you donate to charity you are doing it as much for yourself as for the cause. I never say NO for a minor amount but my larger donations are very carefully researched. There are far too many charities that consume more than half of donations rewarding themselves.
 
Money is not the only form of reward. Some things we do because they are the right thing to do. IMHO, ask any soldier why they will get shot at for such poor remuneration.


If a CEO of a charity that size will work for 60K, I admire him greatly.

It'd be FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR too much work for me, especially at that wage.
 
Money is not the only form of reward. Some things we do because they are the right thing to do. IMHO, ask any soldier why they will get shot at for such poor remuneration.

Um, military dudes get VERY well paid for their services. Even more if they're active duty.
 
Perhaps some of our active duty military DP members can clarify this. You may very well be correct.


Um, military dudes get VERY well paid for their services. Even more if they're active duty.
 
These charities generally disgust me.
There "payout" is poor, and I do not believe that it does any good for the so-called victim.
Surprising that 30% disagree with be and others.
 
Perhaps some of our active duty military DP members can clarify this. You may very well be correct.

I've done military tax returns, plus I'm in a part of the country where all the "good ol' boys" go into service. Now if you're some E-1 pleeb, you're not making the most in salary, but you also have to remember that soliders don't pay for a THING. If they're not housed and fed on base, they're given an allowance for food and shelter off-base. They eventually get free money for college. If they are the unfortunate ones who get thrown into combat, they get extra money in the form of "combat pay", and most (if not all) of their combat pay is tax exempt. They're given very generous vacation time when they're not active, and if they stick around for 20 they get a pretty cushy little pension.

No serviceman in an active branch is in bad shape, unless they just literally burn money.
 
For these horribly corrupt nations, communism for several generations and then a semi-capitalist system is the answer...
So, you had to send away for the literature to figure this out? I would have bet most had that part down pat while watching the commercial.

Anywho you are not feeding Jose to stay in his native land and make a dozen kids of his own... you are making him strong enough to come up here!

Course one thing you might have overlooked is 2-3 of his siblings won't live to be old enough to reproduce.

Now that you have been 'enlightened' to want to help a poor kid, will you in this country or are you going to claim you will be doing the same thing here... helping perpetuate a culture that needs to change...

Your rational is the bedrock of those who refuse to give for the 'betterment' of society.
 
Thank you. I hang out here to learn things. Your input is appreciated.


I've done military tax returns, plus I'm in a part of the country where all the "good ol' boys" go into service. Now if you're some E-1 pleeb, you're not making the most in salary, but you also have to remember that soliders don't pay for a THING. If they're not housed and fed on base, they're given an allowance for food and shelter off-base. They eventually get free money for college. If they are the unfortunate ones who get thrown into combat, they get extra money in the form of "combat pay", and most (if not all) of their combat pay is tax exempt. They're given very generous vacation time when they're not active, and if they stick around for 20 they get a pretty cushy little pension.

No serviceman in an active branch is in bad shape, unless they just literally burn money.
 
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