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    Re: Helping Jose

    I (speaking only for myself) have a problem with Charity administrators who are so well rewarded. I don't object to paying executives but my tolerance ends at about $60K.

    Still, I respect your generosity and the St. Jude mission. St. Jude is probably the best loved charity in Las Vegas.



    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'm fine with that. For a charity of that size, a CEO making just over a half million isn't incredibly lavish.

    I'm sure there are some charities where employees are completely voluntary. They're probably also few and far between. If someone wants to work for nothing, more power to 'em. My time is money though.

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    Re: Helping Jose

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I (speaking only for myself) have a problem with Charity administrators who are so well rewarded. I don't object to paying executives but my tolerance ends at about $60K.

    Still, I respect your generosity and the St. Jude mission. St. Jude is probably the best loved charity in Las Vegas.
    If a CEO of a charity that size will work for 60K, I admire him greatly.

    It'd be FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR too much work for me, especially at that wage.

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    Re: Helping Jose

    When you donate to charity you are doing it as much for yourself as for the cause. I never say NO for a minor amount but my larger donations are very carefully researched. There are far too many charities that consume more than half of donations rewarding themselves.

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    Re: Helping Jose

    Money is not the only form of reward. Some things we do because they are the right thing to do. IMHO, ask any soldier why they will get shot at for such poor remuneration.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    If a CEO of a charity that size will work for 60K, I admire him greatly.

    It'd be FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR too much work for me, especially at that wage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Money is not the only form of reward. Some things we do because they are the right thing to do. IMHO, ask any soldier why they will get shot at for such poor remuneration.
    Um, military dudes get VERY well paid for their services. Even more if they're active duty.

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    Re: Helping Jose

    Perhaps some of our active duty military DP members can clarify this. You may very well be correct.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Um, military dudes get VERY well paid for their services. Even more if they're active duty.

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    Re: Helping Jose

    These charities generally disgust me.
    There "payout" is poor, and I do not believe that it does any good for the so-called victim.
    Surprising that 30% disagree with be and others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Perhaps some of our active duty military DP members can clarify this. You may very well be correct.
    I've done military tax returns, plus I'm in a part of the country where all the "good ol' boys" go into service. Now if you're some E-1 pleeb, you're not making the most in salary, but you also have to remember that soliders don't pay for a THING. If they're not housed and fed on base, they're given an allowance for food and shelter off-base. They eventually get free money for college. If they are the unfortunate ones who get thrown into combat, they get extra money in the form of "combat pay", and most (if not all) of their combat pay is tax exempt. They're given very generous vacation time when they're not active, and if they stick around for 20 they get a pretty cushy little pension.

    No serviceman in an active branch is in bad shape, unless they just literally burn money.

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    Re: Helping Jose

    For these horribly corrupt nations, communism for several generations and then a semi-capitalist system is the answer...
    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    So, you had to send away for the literature to figure this out? I would have bet most had that part down pat while watching the commercial.

    Anywho you are not feeding Jose to stay in his native land and make a dozen kids of his own... you are making him strong enough to come up here!

    Course one thing you might have overlooked is 2-3 of his siblings won't live to be old enough to reproduce.

    Now that you have been 'enlightened' to want to help a poor kid, will you in this country or are you going to claim you will be doing the same thing here... helping perpetuate a culture that needs to change...

    Your rational is the bedrock of those who refuse to give for the 'betterment' of society.

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    Re: Helping Jose

    Thank you. I hang out here to learn things. Your input is appreciated.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I've done military tax returns, plus I'm in a part of the country where all the "good ol' boys" go into service. Now if you're some E-1 pleeb, you're not making the most in salary, but you also have to remember that soliders don't pay for a THING. If they're not housed and fed on base, they're given an allowance for food and shelter off-base. They eventually get free money for college. If they are the unfortunate ones who get thrown into combat, they get extra money in the form of "combat pay", and most (if not all) of their combat pay is tax exempt. They're given very generous vacation time when they're not active, and if they stick around for 20 they get a pretty cushy little pension.

    No serviceman in an active branch is in bad shape, unless they just literally burn money.

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