View Poll Results: Are you helping or just enabling by giving Jose money

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  • You are helping, give him the money you tightwad

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Thread: Helping Jose

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    Re: Helping Jose

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Feel better? Sheeesh
    That is what I thought of your OP, a right wing whine you already knew the answer to and you never bother with charity no matter the venue... just wanted to rant some and feed the other howlers...

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    Re: Helping Jose

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It's not ignorance, but if you want to call it hubris, so be it.

    And yes, I do give to charity. I'll continue to do that, and you continue to be annoying on the internet. SSDD
    Good to see you do give to charity. You calling someone else annoying is a good laugh...thanks I appreciate that!

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    Re: Helping Jose

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    It appears that demorats like to use the "I gave at the office" (meaning that they paid taxes) instead of personally giving to private charity which is more the republicant kind of charity.

    Who's More Generous: Republicans or Democrats? - Clearwater, FL Patch

    Democrats Are More Generous Than Republicans, But With Other People's Money - Investors.com

    Dataset of the Day: Who is more Generous? Republicans or Democrats? | GeoIQ Blog

    For a real hoot look at this site. It considers the oppostie to be true but look at what they count as "giving" and "activism" - yep, supporting income redistribution via tax money.

    Liberal Dems Top Conservative Reps in Donations, Activism | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press
    Ummm what does that have to do with the price of eggs in China or Sawyer's n Gipper's silliness? but now that you mention it I wonder how that would work out if using charity as a tax dodge, claiming a donation at a much higher value than it will sell for was to be tightened up?

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    Re: Helping Jose

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Ummm what does that have to do with the price of eggs in China or Sawyer's n Gipper's silliness? but now that you mention it I wonder how that would work out if using charity as a tax dodge, claiming a donation at a much higher value than it will sell for was to be tightened up?
    Umm...wouldn't work well since charity has a very low %AGI cap. Also, if you make obviously fraudulent claims on Schedule A deductions, you can expect a call. If you claim more than 500 dollars in charity, an audit is probable.

    I'm waiting to be judged on my "silliness" now.

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    Re: Helping Jose

    Sometimes having more people producing helps feed the existing ones. Farmers use to have large families for working the crops.

    The problem with not directly giving is that many charities are high cost management and very little gets into the hands of the poor.
    Though something sounds wrong with, "go away and starve to death child because your life is only making the world a worse place for me."
    Faced directly with them we probably wouldn't act that way.
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    Re: Helping Jose

    The easiest and most sensible way to fix this would be to adjust subsidies.

    To help control crop prices, some farmers are actually paid by the gubmint to not plant. We should find farms that are subsidized to not grow, but instead give them that money to plant edible crops that are immediately passed on to the "poor". Since they are probably not consumers anywhere in the chain (except in the "free" section of it), it wouldn't be a disruption to use what those farms reap and immediately supply food to repair a need.

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    Re: Helping Jose

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You have probably seen these commercials to help some poor kid in South America where they claim just a dollar a day will change a child's life. It tugged at my heart strings so I called for more info. They sent me a bio of this kid from a very poor family with eight kids. They said that if I helped feed him he could grow up to someday have a family of his own. It occurred to me that all I was doing by helping little Jose was enabling a culture that has to many kids per family too even feed. They need to learn to live within their means and by giving Jose money I was just helping to perpetuate a culture that needs to change. Give Jose money so he can grow up and have more kids than he can feed? WTF is that about. Anyway I didn't join the charity. So I wonder how others here feel, are you helping or hurting when you sign up for this program.
    I wouldn't send a dime... not because I don't want to help, but because half of the "charities" don't actually send that money to these needy people. They keep over half of it in order to make them selves richer and "spread the cause". There are a few genuine ones out there though that I donate too every time, like St. Judes children hospital for example.

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    Re: Helping Jose

    I do donate to St. Jude's because, like Lightning, that's one of the few charities I feel safe about the vast majority of proceeds actually making it to its stated destination.

    I'm not willing to buy another Porsche for United Way's CFO.

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    Re: Helping Jose

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I do donate to St. Jude's because, like Lightning, that's one of the few charities I feel safe about the vast majority of proceeds actually making it to its stated destination.

    I'm not willing to buy another Porsche for United Way's CFO.
    I have heard good of them. I donate to Easter Seals because they are supposed to be pretty efficient. We also give stuff to the animal shelter store and my wife volunteers to walk dogs if that counts. Somehow I think notquiteright doesn't give anything to anybody except a dose of s***.

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    Re: Helping Jose

    I believe by law only 10% of donated money has to actually go to the cause.

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