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Thread: Should the President be able to drone strikes on Americans in the USA

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    Should the President be able to drone strikes on Americans in the USA

    There is a filabuster now in the Senate to oppose a bill that would give the president, AG and Military the authority to administratively and secretly order drone strikes and assasinations against Americans on USA soil.

    Obviously, a person has to support the death sentence to support this. But they also have to support setting aside due process of law and creating a Presidency and federal administrative government that has the full and secret power to order any American assasinated at any time.

    Between the power Congress already gave to the White to indefinitely and secretly imprison an American without trial and now the ability to summarily and secretly assasinate, including by drone strikes, Americans in the United States would be essentially ordering perpetual martial law of the harshest form.

    Would you have wanted Nixon to have that power? What about the next President after Obama? Or Obama himself?

    I think this the most dangerous of all possible legislation and is Obama taking the "War on Terrorism" totally over the edge, declaring the USA is a literal war zone now, and imposing permanent administrative martial law permanently over the entire country and everyone of us. It also means that regardless of why any person was assasinated, it would be entirely legal as it is an entirely discretionary decision requiring no provable justification. If innocent Americans or bystanders are killed here in American, "oops" would be sufficient.

    Maybe you happened to be on a bus or airplane or restaurant at a wedding with a suspected terrorist also there. That's enough to hit it with a drone just like in Pakistan.

    Do you think this law giving this power to the President, AG and Military should be passed?
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    Re: Should the President be able to drone strikes on Americans in the USA

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    Re: Should the President be able to drone strikes on Americans in the USA

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    There is a filabuster now in the Senate to oppose a bill that would give the president, AG and Military the authority to administratively and secretly order drone strikes and assasinations against Americans on USA soil.

    Obviously, a person has to support the death sentence to support this. But they also have to support setting aside due process of law and creating a Presidency and federal administrative government that has the full and secret power to order any American assasinated at any time.

    Do you think this law giving this power to the President, AG and Military should be passed?
    I do not!

    I was pi**ed that they killed the american in Pakistan with a drone.

    I would not have had a problem if due process is followed.

    I'm in favor of the death penalty for treason but due process must occur!!!!

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    Re: Should the President be able to drone strikes on Americans in the USA

    Not on American soil.

    Yo Loons, this is your president at work.

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    Re: Should the President be able to drone strikes on Americans in the USA

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    There is a filabuster now in the Senate to oppose a bill that would give the president, AG and Military the authority to administratively and secretly order drone strikes and assasinations against Americans on USA soil.
    I don't believe that's what's going on. My understanding is that Rand is currently filibustering the nomination of CIA director nominee, John Brennan, until he gets definitive answers from the White House regarding the subject. But I don't believe there's any actual bill on the floor. He had discussions with Eric Holder on it and was simply left with more questions.

    I could be wrong, though.

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    Re: Should the President be able to drone strikes on Americans in the USA

    Well maybe if they started with the sad cat's house. Just depends on the details of the law. I would still at least want something like the FISA Court to prove that it was at least probable cause that it had to be done that way as opposed to a traditional arrest.

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    Re: Should the President be able to drone strikes on Americans in the USA

    NO regardless of where it takes place
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    Re: Should the President be able to drone strikes on Americans in the USA

    Any situation in which this would be necessary is a situation we can probably justify after the fact and excuse retroactively.

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    Re: Should the President be able to drone strikes on Americans in the USA

    I NEED TO CLARIFY... my OP is inaccurate. The filibuster is in opposition appointment of a new CIA director on the issue of whether he, the military and the President may already now order such assasination attacks for which no proof is ever needed to demonstrate this was necessary to prevent an imminent attack in the USA by an American.

    It is NOT a piece of legislation.
    Last edited by joko104; 03-06-13 at 04:18 PM.

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    Re: Should the President be able to drone strikes on Americans in the USA

    Does it even have anything to do with John Brennan personally? I thought it was specifically about Holder and Obama's responses to Rand's questions about U.S. drone strikes.

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