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Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

Would you rather live in another country?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 19.0%

  • No

    Votes: 40 63.5%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 11 17.5%
  • Total voters
    63
Are you kidding? I've been waiting for 30 years for "the changing times"! Its hard for me to believe that people put up with trickle down economics and deregulation of the banks for as long as they did.
 
I wouldn't want to live in another city, let alone another country. Heck, just when I have to work out of town I start getting homesick after a few weeks.
 
You cant get out of this dump anyway.

Minimun amount to buy your way out is about $500k.

And for the idiots with a USA only mind set.
Other counties DONT ALLOW FOREIGNERS to WORK AT ALL.
Other countries dont allow ANYONE in at all. Except retireees and others with MONEY.

Only the US Citizen gets screwed by its own Gov this way.
 
I've wanted to take up Aliyah, but proving my Jewishness is going to be difficult based on past family circumstances.
I've wanted to live in another country though, purely for the learning experience for my family.

There are very very few countries that just swing the door open to people, even those in developed nations.
The hoop jumping is huge, in most places.
 
Knowledge=power said:
I was thinking: Finland, Switzerland, Sweden, Ireland, Australia, or New Zealand. You know why? Because you never hear about them.
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Good luck with all those, you either need to have to be skilled in something they predict to have a shortage of or have a lot of money.
Uruguay and Israel have the easiest immigration policy.

Those are about it, unless you're retiring/retired, then you can get easy retirement residency, in some places.
 
Knowledge=power said:
Exactly, this is where I stand. I've just got this nameless dread about the future of this country... something doesn't feel right. I would want to get out, if I chose to do so, while I still could.
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I feel the same way man. Something just isn't right and I can't put my finger on it. It may just be a case of so many small holes in the dam that we know we'll never plug them all. This country's not going to right itself. Too much money, too much politics, and not enough genuine service and care are being given by those that are supposed to be looking out for us. Everyone seems to have an agenda and that agenda has nothing to do with making the country better.

All that being said, I still wouldn't leave. I guess I'm looking forward to being the leader of a small group of guys like in Red Dawn when the crap hits the fan. Minus the Cubans of course lol.
 
Most people who think they can "just leave" really don't get that you can't, "just leave when things get bad."

Most developed nations don't let regular folks waltz on in, on a whim.
I've researched the hell out of this and immigrating, nearly anywhere, is very difficult.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Most people who think they can "just leave" really don't get that you can't, "just leave when things get bad."

Most developed nations don't let regular folks waltz on in, on a whim.
I've researched the hell out of this and immigrating, nearly anywhere, is very difficult.
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Not if you can show a sufficient means of support...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Not if you can show a sufficient means of support...
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Of course, but in a lot of places that's millions of dollars.
NZ for instance, if you have a million to invest in the economy, they'll let you in, with restrictions.
With 10 mil, they roll out the red carpet, a no restrictions residency visa and quicker path to citizenship.

This more or less goes for most countries.
With Uruguay and Israel being exceptions.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
We're actually looking at Belize, Ecuador, and Mexico for our retirement...
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Mexico is a terrible place to retire. Belize is better. Ecuador is crime central.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Of course, but in a lot of places that's millions of dollars.
NZ for instance, if you have a million to invest in the economy, they'll let you in, with restrictions.
With 10 mil, they roll out the red carpet, a no restrictions residency visa and quicker path to citizenship.

This more or less goes for most countries.
With Uruguay and Israel being exceptions.
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You can emigrate to NZ with a legitimate job offer...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
You can emigrate to NZ with a legitimate job offer...
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Yep, that goes for most other countries too.
You just have to find one.

If things were to get bad here, how many nations would shut their doors to prevent the influx of new immigrants, overloading their systems.
I'm just saying, that for most people, immigrating to another nation is just not possible.
Thinking you can up and leave, with your new home country welcoming you with open arms, is not a likely scenario.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Not if you can show a sufficient means of support...
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Good evening, AP.

....which varies from country to country. Australia requires more than some. I wonder what Canada's requirements are?
 
I have an uncle who is only a couple years older than me that left this country, he now lives on a boat. He got fed up and calls the ocean home. Last I heard he was off the coast of Venezuela. He's been trying to get me to buy a boat and join him but I'm a landlubber.
 
polgara said:
Good evening, AP.

....which varies from country to country. Australia requires more than some. I wonder what Canada's requirements are?
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Good evening pg. I have no intention of moving any farther north...
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Most people who think they can "just leave" really don't get that you can't, "just leave when things get bad."

Most developed nations don't let regular folks waltz on in, on a whim.
I've researched the hell out of this and immigrating, nearly anywhere, is very difficult.
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That is true, America use to be like that before the 1965 Immigration Reform Act.

Most developed countries immigration policies are what's best for the nation.

America's immigration policies in the past forty five years has been what's not best for America but what's best for the immigrant and the Democrat Party, uneducated and unskilled immigrants who are extremely likely to live in poverty and become dependent on the government.
 
APACHERAT said:
That is true, America use to be like that before the 1965 Immigration Reform Act.

Most developed countries immigration policies are what's best for the nation.

America's immigration policies in the past forty five years has been what's not best for America but what's best for the immigrant and the Democrat Party, uneducated and unskilled immigrants who are extremely likely to live in poverty and become dependent on the government.
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American immigration policy was good over 100 years ago, that's changed a lot now.

Now most countries have just as strict immigration policies, of course if you do it the legal way.
If I remember right, Brazil has a similar anchor baby system.
 
polgara said:
Good evening, AP.

....which varies from country to country. Australia requires more than some. I wonder what Canada's requirements are?
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Good evening, Polgara. The trick is to wait until you're fully retired. No one turns away self-supporting pensioners who add to the economy and don't compete for jobs.:cool:
 
Knowledge=power said:
Many things are changing in the United States, and many things have remained the same (war, for example). Gun policies are changing, health care is changing drastically, economy is in the dumps, etc etc. I am not deeming any of these issues negative or positive because to each, his own. I am simply curious to see how many Americans are either satisfied and want to continue living here, or are unsettled and wish to leave.

Vote and discuss.
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I enjoy being in England, but I don't believe you can leave behind your fatherland.
 
I hate to say it but I no longer see that "Shining city on the hill."

And I don't see another Ronald Reagan in the horizon who can give America a second chance. More accurately a third chance.

America hasn't been so divided since 1860.

We have lost so many individual freedoms like the freedom of choice, now it's either the federal government or state governments who tell us how we should live our lives. We are told what words we can use, what kind of guns we can own, where we can smoke, even if we can have a fireplace in the home in some states. America has become a nanny state and half of America wants free stuff from the other half.

Who would have ever thought fifty years ago that nationalism (patriotism) would be called racist ?

Even twenty years ago it would have been impossible of picturing someone who said "I never looked upon myself as being an American but as an internationalist" sitting in the White House.

I think I'm going to ask that I be cremated when I die so no one has to hear me turning over my grave when we become just another South Africa where even the middle class have to live behind walled communities and the cost of living also includes the cost for mercenaries to protect the walled communities.
 
Knowledge=power said:
Many things are changing in the United States, and many things have remained the same (war, for example). Gun policies are changing, health care is changing drastically, economy is in the dumps, etc etc. I am not deeming any of these issues negative or positive because to each, his own. I am simply curious to see how many Americans are either satisfied and want to continue living here, or are unsettled and wish to leave.

Vote and discuss.
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Personally, I'd rather work to change America into the place I want to live.
 
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