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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    I understand. I'm still trying to build a family, so I get frightened thinking I'll do it here, then regret it.
    I surely understand and it was why I moved from California to Oregon to start my family way back when. Now, I worry for them. Not for myself, what the hell, I'm old, have lived an insanely good life and it can end whenever it ends. But my grandchildren, they haven't even cut their teeth on this adventure yet.

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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    there isn't anywhere else I'd rather live at this point. I can see scenarios in which I'd consider emigration, but these scenarios are not likely.

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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Many things are changing in the United States, and many things have remained the same (war, for example). Gun policies are changing, health care is changing drastically, economy is in the dumps, etc etc. I am not deeming any of these issues negative or positive because to each, his own. I am simply curious to see how many Americans are either satisfied and want to continue living here, or are unsettled and wish to leave.

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    Stay - and maybe change things that I don't agree with.

    I never understood some people and why they choose to relocate: America's changing - so pack up and go to another country that's completely different? A little change is bad but extreme permanent change is ok.

    It's illogical, actually - so is the belief that other countries don't also change and will stay the same as they are if you do move there.

    What's such a big deal that can't be handled by moving elsewhere - if not being more active politically? No two states are the same. That's the purpose of our union with our smaller governments.

    Further - if people just pack up and move then what good is that going to do? They're just removing their selves from the equation. . . and hoping that will change something? They'll get more change than they know what to do with, that's for sure.
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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    It's not easy to give up all you know, family, friends, a way of life. I've contemplated it, but I'm not sure I'm willing to give it all up. Canada could be a likely choice, but damn, the winters are cold up there.....
    It isn't easy giving up your family and friends, the way of life that doesn't mean politics but the local places and traditions. There are folks who can't live in another region of this country much less a nation that doesn't speak 'American'.

    But millions of people do just that- coming here! give it all up and risk everything in a land where the customs are sooo different and the language not their own.

    I have been around the world, lived many places til I settled down here in Oklahoma. Some were true armpits, some pretty nice, but none are where I'd want to settle down in. liked parts of some of the nicer places but not enough to 'flee' this country.

    While reading the rest of the thread-

    Given what many are complaining about here I don't see where the nation's mentioned are 'better', certainly not on the 2nd A, for profit healthcare, taxes, trial rights.... Fleeing to the 3rd world makes me smile, go to where murder and gangs makes Detroit look like Disneyland and the ex-pat will have less rights and always look like a target for kidnapping or just payback- we tend to forget this country's meddling south of the Rio- they don't. But to each their own.

    Now some of we in this nation love to boast of how tough 'we' are, WWI and WWII, the Cold War, policemen odf the world, most powerful military.... yadda yadda yadda...

    So it always amazing to me to hear the 'lets run away' crowd lament the way the country is going. Something must be done- but not me or my family.

    I'm for staying, things maynot be going 100% the way I'd like but having been around the world I'd just as soon stay here. I live in Oklahoma where droughts and tornadoes come with the scenery, maybe that combined with seeing the world the way few tourists do has me thinking staying here and at least trying to work for what I want doesn't overwhelm me.

    Maybe what we need to for the fainter of heart to leave, better 10 stout hearted than 100 ready to bolt at the first round coming back at us...

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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Many things are changing in the United States, and many things have remained the same (war, for example). Gun policies are changing, health care is changing drastically, economy is in the dumps, etc etc. I am not deeming any of these issues negative or positive because to each, his own. I am simply curious to see how many Americans are either satisfied and want to continue living here, or are unsettled and wish to leave.

    Vote and discuss.
    No...Im American, I dont just quit when the going gets tough

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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    Are you kidding? I've been waiting for 30 years for "the changing times"! Its hard for me to believe that people put up with trickle down economics and deregulation of the banks for as long as they did.
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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    I wouldn't want to live in another city, let alone another country. Heck, just when I have to work out of town I start getting homesick after a few weeks.

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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    You cant get out of this dump anyway.

    Minimun amount to buy your way out is about $500k.

    And for the idiots with a USA only mind set.
    Other counties DONT ALLOW FOREIGNERS to WORK AT ALL.
    Other countries dont allow ANYONE in at all. Except retireees and others with MONEY.

    Only the US Citizen gets screwed by its own Gov this way.

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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    I've wanted to take up Aliyah, but proving my Jewishness is going to be difficult based on past family circumstances.
    I've wanted to live in another country though, purely for the learning experience for my family.

    There are very very few countries that just swing the door open to people, even those in developed nations.
    The hoop jumping is huge, in most places.
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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    I was thinking: Finland, Switzerland, Sweden, Ireland, Australia, or New Zealand. You know why? Because you never hear about them.
    Good luck with all those, you either need to have to be skilled in something they predict to have a shortage of or have a lot of money.
    Uruguay and Israel have the easiest immigration policy.

    Those are about it, unless you're retiring/retired, then you can get easy retirement residency, in some places.
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