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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    In theory, yes, and I very nearly did.

    But that was several years ago and things were different.

    Question is, where the hell would you go?

    Europe is scary-screwed. I've been down under, and no thanks. Germany is still ok, but with crazy on all sides, how long will that last? Canada is still holding it together -- I guess I could go there, and I might if things get bad enough, but man... the last thing I need is more cold.

    I'm probably in the best place I could be right now: a relatively stable, economically viable blue state. There's still problems, but it's probably the best of all available options at the moment.

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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    Who thinks that "escaping" to another country will save you, pending the failure of the US? Who thinks other countries will remain unscathed by a failure of the US? Think about it, is that even possible? By every measure of GDP, the US is either at the top or within the top 10. Per capita GDP the US is 8th; do you know what China is.......94th. So if money doesn't interest you, tell me why you would leave the US, because when the economy collapses, don't expect that your leisure cruise down the Rhine River to go unaffected.
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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    No. I felt comfortable in Canada, New Zealand, Switzerland, UK, Denmark, Poland, Estonia - and could probably live in any of these countries, no problem. But America is just more fun - more stuff happening, more things to do.

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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Being selective is what makes them great.
    So then you support the European Union? Both Finland and Sweden benefit from being a EU member. Switzerland though refuses to become a member of the EU but then they dont really need to since they are a very very small state that is landlocked by countries in the EU, which means that it is highly likely that their neighbors would save their little country.

    At anyrate the fact that those countries only actual let rich people move there means that it doesnt matter that they exist for you since you can never move there.

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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    If there were any other countries that were better, sure. Unfortunately there aren't so I'm content to live in the best one currently available, warts and all.
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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    I have a very hard time believing this, but I am willing to do so if shown the information. Could you cite a credible source? I am in disbelief because of the millions of illegal immigrants from Mexico who live and work(illegally in most cases) who do not know how to speak english, let alone read it. Also, the number of kids who drop out and are illiterate, people who are severely impoverished and do not finish school, etc. I work in a setting where the patients have extremely low literacy. I'm unsure of how the 99% figure was achieved.


    Legal immigration is one thing, however, illegal immigration, which is rampant in the U.S., is another. As liberalavenger noted, you can't just walk into the aforementioned countries. They are selective. The U.S. is a country which deserves to be picky about immigrants, why are we not? Not on the basis of race of course.
    Maybe we should be more "picky" about immigration.....or maybe not...
    These nations with strict immigraton laws could also be, in this area anyway, police states...
    Or they do NOT have the allure of our nation..
    As to illiteracy...check out Craigs List.
    It more like 90% at best..
    Maybe no one asks the "illegals "??

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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    I would rather continue living here, but they aren't making it an easy choice.
    What he said ^

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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    The people of those countries are (in general) less powerful than the people of the US. And the culture is far more monotonic. But, measured in the way you are using, their stats show up great. So what is it that you want more precisely stated?
    I want a safe place to start a family with a good education system, low religious population, progressive civil rights, low crime rate, stable economy. I hope this is precise enough. I know not all places can have the best of everything, but I like the idea of finding some place which comes close.

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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    I like the enthusiasm, but how do you propose I change the economic meltdown we are in? How do you supposed I change the election process, the policy making process, end the war, get us out of debt, create hundreds of thousands of jobs, improve the education system, etc? Do you suppose I lobby? Call my congressman? I have done both, to no avail, as many others have.
    None of those things happened overnight. The shortest was the 2008 Crash and it took three years to take full effect. Afghanistan has been just over a decade. Everything else has taken decades to get to where they are now - and it's going to take decades to get them back where they belong. You have to take it one step at a time and pass on your views of change to the following generations with hopes they'll have better lives.
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    Re: Given the changing times, would you rather live in another country?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    So then you support the European Union? Both Finland and Sweden benefit from being a EU member. Switzerland though refuses to become a member of the EU but then they dont really need to since they are a very very small state that is landlocked by countries in the EU, which means that it is highly likely that their neighbors would save their little country.

    At anyrate the fact that those countries only actual let rich people move there means that it doesnt matter that they exist for you since you can never move there.
    As gottago said, I want to live in America, but the choice to stay is becoming increasingly difficult. You are right that the short list of successful countries do not have an open door policy, which is understandable but unfortunate. The nation is divided on most issues. I don't want to see any anarchy or revolutions. I live in the south, and people I know are SERIOUS about saying they will NOT give up their guns no matter what. I don't want to see Civil War II, right before I start my family. That's all I'm saying. I could be called paranoid I guess, but I'm trying to take precautions. I want what was afforded to my parents, and their parents before them.

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