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Would you go, or take family, to a doctor that you knew regularly smoked marijuana?

Would you go, or take family, to a doctor that you knew regularly smoked marijuana?


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Re: Would you go, or take family, to a doctor that you knew regularly smoked marijuan

Not a chance, in fact, if I knew it for a fact (rather than just a suspicion), I'd turn him in to both the police and the AMA.
Unless he's high on the job who cares what he does in his free time? And if I had the choice between a high doctor and a drunk doctor I would... Well that's a no brainer.
And isn't the conservative party supposed to be for small government? I guess that excludes what people do in the privacy of their own homes and only goes for wall street.
 
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we cant know that
You can't know it about alcohol, either. Are we to suspect any doctor who has a beer or glass of wine or two a day of drinking on the job? May as well throw them all out if that's the case.
 
Re: Would you go, or take family, to a doctor that you knew regularly smoked marijuan

Unless he's high on the job who cares what he does in his free time? And if I had the choice between a high doctor and a drunk doctor I would... Well that's a no brainer.
And isn't the conservative party supposed to be for small government? I guess that excludes what people do in the privacy of their own homes and only goes for wall street.

Small government, not no government, we do need regulatory control in many industries which the government is in a perfect position to oversee. Given the choice between a high doctor and a drunk doctor, I'd keep looking and probably report them both.
 
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Unless he's high on the job who cares what he does in his free time? And if I had the choice between a high doctor and a drunk doctor I would... Well that's a no brainer.
And isn't the conservative party supposed to be for small government? I guess that excludes what people do in the privacy of their own homes and only goes for wall street.

Why is it a no brainer, I lost a friend a few years back because someone that was high ran over them with a large piece of equipment. Pot is just as bad as alcohol maybe even worse since it is not tested for as often and harder to spot.
 
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Pot is just as bad as alcohol maybe even worse since it is not tested for as often and harder to spot.
You don't actually believe that, do you?Many people die from alcohol use. Nobody dies from marijuana use. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that more than 37,000 annual U.S. deaths, including more than 1,400 in Colorado, are attributed to alcohol use alone (i.e. this figure does not include accidental deaths). On the other hand, the CDC does not even have a category for deaths caused by the use of marijuana.
People die from alcohol overdoses. There has never been a fatal marijuana overdose. The official publication of the Scientific Research Society, American Scientist, reported that alcohol is one of the most toxic drugs and using just 10 times what one would use to get the desired effect could lead to death. Marijuana is one of – if not the – least toxic drugs, requiring thousands of times the dose one would use to get the desired effect to lead to death. This “thousands of times” is actually theoretical, since there has never been a case of an individual dying from a marijuana overdose. Meanwhile, according to the CDC, hundreds of alcohol overdose deaths occur the United States each year.
The health-related costs associated with alcohol use far exceed those for marijuana use. Health-related costs for alcohol consumers are eight times greater than those for marijuana consumers, according to an assessment recently published in the British Columbia Mental Health and Addictions Journal. More specifically, the annual cost of alcohol consumption is $165 per user, compared to just $20 per user for marijuana. This should not come as a surprise given the vast amount of research that shows alcohol poses far more – and more significant – health problems than marijuana.
Alcohol use damages the brain. Marijuana use does not. Despite the myths we've heard throughout our lives about marijuana killing brain cells, it turns out that a growing number of studies seem to indicate that marijuana actually has neuroprotective properties. This means that it works to protect brain cells from harm. For example, one recent study found that teens who used marijuana as well as alcohol suffered significantly less damage to the white matter in their brains. Of course, what is beyond question is that alcohol damages brain cells.
Alcohol use is linked to cancer. Marijuana use is not. Alcohol use is associated with a wide variety of cancers, including cancers of the esophagus, stomach, colon, lungs, pancreas, liver and prostate. Marijuana use has not been conclusively associated with any form of cancer. In fact, one study recently contradicted the long-time government claim that marijuana use is associated with head and neck cancers. It found that marijuana use actually reduced the likelihood of head and neck cancers. If you are concerned about marijuana being associated with lung cancer, you may be interested in the results of the largest case-controlled study ever conducted to investigate the respiratory effects of marijuana smoking and cigarette smoking. Released in 2006, the study, conducted by Dr. Donald Tashkin at the University of California at Los Angeles, found that marijuana smoking was not associated with an increased risk of developing lung cancer. Surprisingly, the researchers found that people who smoked marijuana actually had lower incidences of cancer compared to non-users of the drug.
Alcohol is more addictive than marijuana. Addiction researchers have consistently reported that marijuana is far less addictive than alcohol based on a number of factors. In particular, alcohol use can result in significant and potentially fatal physical withdrawal, whereas marijuana has not been found to produce any symptoms of physical withdrawal. Those who use alcohol are also much more likely to develop dependence and build tolerance.
Alcohol use increases the risk of injury to the consumer. Marijuana use does not. Many people who have consumed alcohol or know others who have consumed alcohol would not be surprised to hear that it greatly increases the risk of serious injury. Research published this year in the journal Alcoholism: Clinical & Experimental Research, found that 36 percent of hospitalized assaults and 21 percent of all injuries are attributable to alcohol use by the injured person. Meanwhile, the American Journal of Emergency Medicine reported that lifetime use of marijuana is rarely associated with emergency room visits. According to the British Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, this is because: "Cannabis differs from alcohol … in one major respect. It does not seem to increase risk-taking behavior. This means that cannabis rarely contributes to violence either to others or to oneself, whereas alcohol use is a major factor in deliberate self-harm, domestic accidents and violence." Interestingly enough, some research has even shown that marijuana use has been associated with a decreased risk of injury.
 
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You don't actually believe that, do you?Many people die from alcohol use. Nobody dies from marijuana use. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that more than 37,000 annual U.S. deaths, including more than 1,400 in Colorado, are attributed to alcohol use alone (i.e. this figure does not include accidental deaths). On the other hand, the CDC does not even have a category for deaths caused by the use of marijuana.
People die from alcohol overdoses. There has never been a fatal marijuana overdose. The official publication of the Scientific Research Society, American Scientist, reported that alcohol is one of the most toxic drugs and using just 10 times what one would use to get the desired effect could lead to death. Marijuana is one of – if not the – least toxic drugs, requiring thousands of times the dose one would use to get the desired effect to lead to death. This “thousands of times” is actually theoretical, since there has never been a case of an individual dying from a marijuana overdose. Meanwhile, according to the CDC, hundreds of alcohol overdose deaths occur the United States each year.
The health-related costs associated with alcohol use far exceed those for marijuana use. Health-related costs for alcohol consumers are eight times greater than those for marijuana consumers, according to an assessment recently published in the British Columbia Mental Health and Addictions Journal. More specifically, the annual cost of alcohol consumption is $165 per user, compared to just $20 per user for marijuana. This should not come as a surprise given the vast amount of research that shows alcohol poses far more – and more significant – health problems than marijuana.
Alcohol use damages the brain. Marijuana use does not. Despite the myths we've heard throughout our lives about marijuana killing brain cells, it turns out that a growing number of studies seem to indicate that marijuana actually has neuroprotective properties. This means that it works to protect brain cells from harm. For example, one recent study found that teens who used marijuana as well as alcohol suffered significantly less damage to the white matter in their brains. Of course, what is beyond question is that alcohol damages brain cells.
Alcohol use is linked to cancer. Marijuana use is not. Alcohol use is associated with a wide variety of cancers, including cancers of the esophagus, stomach, colon, lungs, pancreas, liver and prostate. Marijuana use has not been conclusively associated with any form of cancer. In fact, one study recently contradicted the long-time government claim that marijuana use is associated with head and neck cancers. It found that marijuana use actually reduced the likelihood of head and neck cancers. If you are concerned about marijuana being associated with lung cancer, you may be interested in the results of the largest case-controlled study ever conducted to investigate the respiratory effects of marijuana smoking and cigarette smoking. Released in 2006, the study, conducted by Dr. Donald Tashkin at the University of California at Los Angeles, found that marijuana smoking was not associated with an increased risk of developing lung cancer. Surprisingly, the researchers found that people who smoked marijuana actually had lower incidences of cancer compared to non-users of the drug.
Alcohol is more addictive than marijuana. Addiction researchers have consistently reported that marijuana is far less addictive than alcohol based on a number of factors. In particular, alcohol use can result in significant and potentially fatal physical withdrawal, whereas marijuana has not been found to produce any symptoms of physical withdrawal. Those who use alcohol are also much more likely to develop dependence and build tolerance.
Alcohol use increases the risk of injury to the consumer. Marijuana use does not. Many people who have consumed alcohol or know others who have consumed alcohol would not be surprised to hear that it greatly increases the risk of serious injury. Research published this year in the journal Alcoholism: Clinical & Experimental Research, found that 36 percent of hospitalized assaults and 21 percent of all injuries are attributable to alcohol use by the injured person. Meanwhile, the American Journal of Emergency Medicine reported that lifetime use of marijuana is rarely associated with emergency room visits. According to the British Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, this is because: "Cannabis differs from alcohol … in one major respect. It does not seem to increase risk-taking behavior. This means that cannabis rarely contributes to violence either to others or to oneself, whereas alcohol use is a major factor in deliberate self-harm, domestic accidents and violence." Interestingly enough, some research has even shown that marijuana use has been associated with a decreased risk of injury.

I know of 9 people that are no longer with us due to someone's pot habit. It is not easy to spot or track. Anyone that thinks pot is non harmful is just an addict wanting to get high at the cost of others.
 
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I know of 9 people that are no longer with us due to someone's pot habit. It is not easy to spot or track. Anyone that thinks pot is non harmful is just an addict wanting to get high at the cost of others.
Sorry, you are incorrect. I gave up smoking a long time ago so I'm not waiting to get high.
 
Re: Would you go, or take family, to a doctor that you knew regularly smoked marijuan

Sorry, you are incorrect. I gave up smoking a long time ago so I'm not waiting to get high.

Why did you give it up if it was not harmful?
 
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Why did you give it up if it was not harmful?
I found another form of entertainment - children and, later, grandchildren. They're much more fun than hanging out even though they cost a lot more. :D

I've given up a lot of things over my 50+ years. We mature, we get bored and find new things, we change. I'd hate to think I'm the same person with the same needs, now, as I was 30 years ago. What a boring existence that would be. I've had 7-8 hobbies since HS and two basic lifestyle changes, going on a third with semi-retirement. I can't imagine being the same basic person, with the same basic job, doing the same things with the same group of friends for 30+ years.
 
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Simple question. I ask because I'm curious just how confident y'all would be in a Doc who you knew was a regular pot-smoker.

If he was a good doctor, sure. Of course, I would also take them to a doctor if I knew he regularly smoked cigarettes and drank. But would I take them to a doctor who was high or drunk? No.
 
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I know of 9 people that are no longer with us due to someone's pot habit. It is not easy to spot or track. Anyone that thinks pot is non harmful is just an addict wanting to get high at the cost of others.

I don't support legalizing or decriminalizing pot but I do understand the arguments in favor of it. While I'm sure there are those who want it legal so they can smoke it without fear of legal ramifications, you can't fairly assume that's true of everyone who supports legalizing pot.
 
I know of 9 people that are no longer with us due to someone's pot habit. It is not easy to spot or track. Anyone that thinks pot is non harmful is just an addict wanting to get high at the cost of others.

How exactly did that happen?

Please note: if it has something to do with dealers or evasion or tainted product, then that right there is the best reason to legalize. The only serious harms I've heard of from marijuana are not because of marijuana. They're because of the black market.

Do you really believe half the US are violent drug addicts? Because that's about how many support legalization. I am one of millions of nonsmokers who does myself. Most of the people I know who do smoke weed use it the same way I get a Friday night drink. They're hardly what I call threatening.

Have you ever seen someone high on marijuana? Not exactly a very dangerous looking person.
 
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Have you ever seen someone high on marijuana? Not exactly a very dangerous looking person.

Unless they're driving a school bus. ;)
 
Re: Would you go, or take family, to a doctor that you knew regularly smoked marijuan

Unless they're driving a school bus. ;)

People who are mentally and reflexively altered by *anything* shouldn't drive, whether that's booze, weed, or Percocet.
 
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People who are mentally and reflexively altered by *anything* shouldn't drive, whether that's booze, weed, or Percocet.

So someone under the influence of marijuana could pose a danger given the right circumstances?
 
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So someone under the influence of marijuana could pose a danger given the right circumstances?

Sure. Like I said, so could someone on prescription medication. I fail to see what this proves, other than the fact that things designed to intoxicate... intoxicate.
 
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Sure. Like I said, so could someone on prescription medication. I fail to see what this proves, other than the fact that things designed to intoxicate... intoxicate.

Sometimes the defense of marijuana gets a little ridiculous, nearly suggesting that marijuana is actually a performance enhancer.
 
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Sometimes the defense of marijuana gets a little ridiculous, nearly suggesting that marijuana is actually a performance enhancer.

To me, I don't really think it's so much of a defense of marijuana than a lack of defense for its illegality.

Prohibition hasn't done anything god, and marijuana is as or less harmful than a lot of legal substances.

But I get kind of exhausted with this game everyone does of making others defend against being lettered with an extremist position they never expressed. It's diversionary, and illogical to go into it with that assumption.
 
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I can't answer this poll. My choice of whether or not I see a doctor is based on their skills and qualifications, not what recreational substance they do in their off time.

Regardless if they use CANNABIS or not (marijuana is not the name of any plant species), they are not allowed to be intoxicated at work.

If a doctor isn't doing a good job then I find another doctor. Choosing one based on their leisure time is just a stupid notion. It's none of your business what they do in the privacy of their own lives as long as their work has not been compromised.

The prejudice of the OP is pretty clear though.
 
Re: Would you go, or take family, to a doctor that you knew regularly smoked marijuan

Simple question. I ask because I'm curious just how confident y'all would be in a Doc who you knew was a regular pot-smoker.

Choices will be yes, no and maybe. Need a sec to get the poll up (that sounds bad).
I voted no.

Over the years I've noticed that most of the regular marijuana users that I've known toke practically every day, or at least a few times a week. So I'm basing my vote on that definition of a "regular user". They are slightly intoxicated all the time. Even if they haven't smoked any dope that day. I don't know what they call it nowadays but back when I was younger we used to refer to this phenomenon as "permabuzz".
 
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All the regular marijuana users you know smoke marijuana regularly? Well duh, and all the women you know are female, I suppose. you are hanging with a very unusual crowd, that's for sure. Regular marijuana users, as you describe with a "permabuzz" are very rare. There are probably less than 100 of them in the United States. I've met many marijuana users, and all of them either had a severe medical problem that it helped ease, or rarely smoked marijuana. That's how normal people smoke marijuana. That's how almost all marijuana users smoke marijuana. Life is not a Cheech and Chong movie, and while the stereotype you describe does exist, they are so very rare that you must be making some really bad lifestyle choices to be knowing several of them.
 
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So someone under the influence of marijuana could pose a danger given the right circumstances?
Someone short on sleep can pose a danger given the right circumstances. :shrug:

Sometimes the defense of marijuana gets a little ridiculous, nearly suggesting that marijuana is actually a performance enhancer.
It can be for some things - but not eye-hand coordination, at least, not with me.
 
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How exactly did that happen?

Please note: if it has something to do with dealers or evasion or tainted product, then that right there is the best reason to legalize. The only serious harms I've heard of from marijuana are not because of marijuana. They're because of the black market.

Do you really believe half the US are violent drug addicts? Because that's about how many support legalization. I am one of millions of nonsmokers who does myself. Most of the people I know who do smoke weed use it the same way I get a Friday night drink. They're hardly what I call threatening.

Have you ever seen someone high on marijuana? Not exactly a very dangerous looking person.

Their judgement and paranoia levels are off the scale. The 9 people I knew were harmed in various work place accidents where the person that caused the incident was high.
 
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Better than the greedy extorsionist scum that lets you suffer for weeks in pain just so he can keep doing expensive tests on you.

Better $20,000 in profitable tests than the $20 cure............
 
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I would go to him/her so long as I never smelt it while in the office or on their person.


And btw - I would be more nervous if they were a moderate drinker then a moderate pot smoker.

I have known several alcoholics who were so used to drinking that it was very difficult to tell, even if they were semi-drunk.
 
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