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  • it has only bad effects that cause economic inequalities and disadvantages in many countries

    4 16.00%
  • İt has only good effects whic h let all world people share their technology and cultural values

    2 8.00%
  • İt should serve only the economic integration among world countries

    1 4.00%
  • it should include only a cultural exchange which every nation can benefit from

    3 12.00%
  • it is a form of imperialism from which global firms can benefit most

    6 24.00%
  • it has both good and bad effects in terms of the socio economic structures of world nations

    16 64.00%
  • it destroys some culturel values of many nations and works in favor of a few of them

    7 28.00%
  • it is a very beneficial movement which lets us transfer values between cultures

    3 12.00%
  • it harms national identities and influences the foreign politics of the nations

    6 24.00%
  • others

    2 8.00%
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    Re: globalization

    I don't think I would want cultural integration to happen. I kind of like that we have different cultures. It makes things more interesting.

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    Re: globalization

    The "Global Economy" is a euphemism for moving in the direction of wage-slave workers in a nationless borderless world run by conglomerates where, in effect, former nations are mere city-states in a U.N. one-world government puppeted by the conglomerates.

    It is bad for nations that are doing comparatively well and wish to remain self-governing, self-supporting countries.

    It is seductive for nations not doing that well that wish to employ their people as it will neither lift them out of their poverty or last much longer, as the former set of countries will soon lower their wage standards to the degree that they'll regain many of the out/in -sourced jobs they lost, albeit at new poverty-level wages.

    It most certainly is not too late to secede from the Global Economy.

    However, with Multi-Cultural Internationalists running the left and Corporate Global Expansionists running the right, it's not likely to happen .. until the great majority in the center has true representation in D.C.
    You don't trust Trump? Well, there's only one way to leverage him to do what's economically right for us all: Powerful American Political Alliance. Got courage?! .. and a mere $5.00?

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    Re: globalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    There was a time when the united states was known as the melting pot of the world. In fact when my wife took her naturalization citizenship test, she was taught there is not such thing as a hyphened American, we are all Americans regardless of where we came from or what race, color or creed. But that has changed, I do not think we are the melting pot anymore, we now have African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Asian-Americans, Native-Americans and a couple of more I probably forgot about. We have went from a goal of including everyone and everybody as Americans to segregating us once more into groups. Instead of uniting one and all, we are once again dividing.
    I think assimilation is pretty much the same as it ever was, with the one difference being that people are no longer buying into the notion that their heritage culture is inferior or something to hide, which is a good thing.

    1. It is mostly a bigoted myth that there are foreign language speakers who refuse to learn English. The first generation tends to arrive as mature adults and they often struggle to learn English, especially if they are poor and are too busy working to take classes etc. The next generation is usually fully bilingual, although their English may not always be fully proper if they were poor and had inferior schooling. By the third generation the heritage language is often barely understood and English is the only or primary language. The main thing impeding people from learning the language and participating in the larger society is poverty and lack of acccess to quality education, not a lack of willingness.

    2. Also, both Native Americans and Mexican Americans (per Treaty of Guadalupe)have a special right for historic reasons and by treaty that requires that their native culture and language be permitted and respected by the government.

    3. There is no reason to expect that our traditional northern European based culture will remain the dominant culture in the USA with so much time passing since most of our families left Europe and the changing demographics. Cultures always change, especially when demographics change. The people who grew up feeling that the way they were raised will always be the normal, default culture will need to start shifting their expectations, or they will just make themselves miserable, constantly complaining about the ways of those "damn foreigners and young punks."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I think assimilation is pretty much the same as it ever was, with the one difference being that people are no longer buying into the notion that their heritage culture is inferior or something to hide, which is a good thing.

    1. It is mostly a bigoted myth that there are foreign language speakers who refuse to learn English. The first generation tends to arrive as mature adults and they often struggle to learn English, especially if they are poor and are too busy working to take classes etc. The next generation is usually fully bilingual, although their English may not always be fully proper if they were poor and had inferior schooling. By the third generation the heritage language is often barely understood and English is the only or primary language. The main thing impeding people from learning the language and participating in the larger society is poverty and lack of acccess to quality education, not a lack of willingness.

    2. Also, both Native Americans and Mexican Americans (per Treaty of Guadalupe)have a special right for historic reasons and by treaty that requires that their native culture and language be permitted and respected by the government.

    3. There is no reason to expect that our traditional northern European based culture will remain the dominant culture in the USA with so much time passing since most of our families left Europe and the changing demographics. Cultures always change, especially when demographics change. The people who grew up feeling that the way they were raised will always be the normal, default culture will need to start shifting their expectations, or they will just make themselves miserable, constantly complaining about the ways of those "damn foreigners and young punks."
    I don’t think being the melting pot of the world and looking at everyone in America as Americans has anything to do with hiding someone’s culture.

    I agree that foreign language speakers eventually learn English or their kids do and it is a myth that they don’t. In fact I lament the fact that my last two kids can’t speak their mothers tongue, although they seem to understand her language. My wife is from Thailand, but now is an American. An American, not an Asian-American which I think is a slap in the face for her to be so labeled. She studied hard for her citizenship test, learned a new language and passed. She should have the right to be referred to as an American, she is an American by choice, not by birth. My oldest daughter, she married a Laotian, she is fluent in not only English, but Thai, Lao and German. Her kids can understand Thai and Lao, but do not speak it. My other grandkids, which my son and youngest daughter married Americans do not understand one word. So yes, by the second generation a lot of the culture and language is lost.

    It seems to me this is a form of re-segregation, adding hyphens I mean. We’re classifying Americans by root of origin and not where they live or the country they are a citizen of.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: globalization

    I see more ethnic pride celebrations and such happening, but I don't observe much of this re-segregation that you feel is happening, but other cities/areas may be different in that regard, perhaps due to greater geographic separation between the rich and poor neighborhoods.

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    Re: globalization

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Democracy is good for ecology. When those directly affected by resource depletion and degradation have no voice in its authority, things get worse.
    shhhh... Thomas Friedman might hear you.

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    Re: globalization

    Globalization has been great for the wealthy but a mixed bag for everyone else. Lifespans seem to be getting longer as a result of it, at the expense of all the indiginous things on planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    shhhh... Thomas Friedman might hear you.
    In his July 25 column, Friedman wrote against the "excuses" made by terrorists or apologists who blame their actions on third-party influences or pressures. "After every major terrorist incident, the excuse makers come out to tell us ... why the terrorists acted. These excuse makers are just one notch less despicable than the terrorists and also deserve to be exposed. When you live in an open society like London, where anyone with a grievance can publish an article, run for office or start a political movement, the notion that blowing up a busload of innocent civilians in response to Iraq is somehow "understandable" is outrageous. "It erases the distinction between legitimate dissent and terrorism" Mr. Rubin said, "and an open society needs to maintain a clear wall between them."
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    I agree with him about that, but not laws against such.

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    Re: globalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    It is mostly a bigoted myth that there are foreign language speakers who refuse to learn English.
    I just wanted to say that although English is the global lingua franca, there are still dominant language groups that are supplanting the thousands of other languages on the planet. In East Asia it's Mandarin, in South America it's Spanish, etc.

    Globalization has resulted in thousands of languages disappearing forever yearly, along with their unique perspectives on reality. Languages aren't just ways of communicating but they are human knowledge databases. When a language goes extinct we lose one way of viewining reality.

    IMO English has become too idealized. It would be a nightmare if the world only spoke 5-6 languages.

    This is a good TEDTalk about this issue: http://www.ted.com/talks/wade_davis_..._cultures.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't think this is going to happen . . . not in my lifetime anyway. It sounds much too complicated and would take too much cooperation. Our own main two governing parties can't even agree on the most simple of issues, so I highly doubt anyone could get this much cooperation and organization to ever occur.
    Well, actually, the infrastructure for such a system is essentially built.

    Europe is really only a group of countries under the European union system. The treaties to create a north American union have already been signed. An Asian union is also in the making.

    All that is left is the middle east and Africa, and the aim seems to be to bring these regions into a world system through conquest...

    Then there's already a system for a world currency, the SDR is a de facto world currency... Though there have been other proposals like a petrodollar.

    The UN (league of nations) was built with the intention of being a world system of government from its inception.

    It really seems, the way things are going that we will be brought into a world war that will be so devastating that the people will cry out for anything to be done to ensure that it never happens again... And that's how people will beg for the last Steps towards a global system.

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