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    Re: Should We Always Support the Troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    They seem to disagree. Most of us think (though agreeably in hindsight) that it's an honor to serve others. I would say that doing so has made be better and more human than I was before.
    Serving others is fine; judging the morality of actions is an integral part of being human.

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    Re: Should We Always Support the Troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    So if American troops go over to the Middle East and start raping women for fun and sport, should I support them?

    Yeaaaaaaaah I'm gonna say no.

    I am not going to say it never happens but the incidents are few and far between.......
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    Re: Should We Always Support the Troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Despite what they do? Even if they are in unjust wars? Even if they are committing massacres?
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    Re: Should We Always Support the Troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Sort of. The term would work if we had the draft. However, the military is voluntary "slaves" - perhaps you could more accurately compare their situation to that of Indentured Servants.
    That, and we get paid.

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    Re: Should We Always Support the Troops?

    I have the highest regard for our military and think all of should. That said, I have become a lot less hawkish about using the military over the years. Complex reasons for this mainly rooted in recent justifications for war, human life is valuable, once a life is gone only God can bring them back and the suffering for those who survive war is incalculable. But to the OP, even when our troops go off the deep end, I think PTSD should be considered and I tend to try to give them the benefit of that doubt.
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    Re: Should We Always Support the Troops?

    ABSOLUTELY!!!!! how you support them is another matter....

    Thank them for their service and do what ever you can to bring them home! Politicians wage war, not our troops!
    Last edited by StubbornMoose; 03-04-13 at 12:31 AM. Reason: missing a comma

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    Re: Should We Always Support the Troops?

    You should always support the troops. The only exception is if they turn on their own people.

    If the troops are in such wars and do such things, it is our fault as the people for electing the people that would arrange for such a thing to happen.

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    Re: Should We Always Support the Troops?

    Support the troops unless you are certain that the individual you are considering has personally committed war crimes. So, in almost ALL cases, support your troops.

    I believe Iraq was an unjust war, but I am very grateful for the troops that went to fight in that war nonetheless. They signed up to protect, they followed orders to engage what my representatives told them was the enemy, and for that they deserve nothing but unreserved gratitude. I would like to beat my representatives silly for their culpability in it, but I'd have to start with myself, first. I really didn't do all they I personally could to try and prevent what I felt to be a completely unjust war. As an aside: We must first do all that we personally can to prevent sending our troops into unjust wars. That is one of the most important parts of honoring their promise.

    So, the moral of the story is: First consider whether YOU yourself have done what you should to honor your ideals about such an incredibly serious matter. Then consider whether your representatives did what they should have done to represent what you made exceedingly clear was your position. But, at no point do you turn on the people who have promised to do as your representatives order them to do.
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    Re: Should We Always Support the Troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Despite what they do? Even if they are in unjust wars? Even if they are committing massacres?
    I am in the military, and I can tell you, that if you do not support the war you should not pander to us. I do not want your support if you do not believe in what I am doing. The military is a volunteer force and its members believe in the path we are taking, otherwise they would not volunteer to join the military. Conflicts just don't start overnight. There generally is a common knowledge as to who our potential enemies are. And it generally is fairly easy to see who we will probably be in the next conflict with. So if a Soldier, Airmen or Marine joins the military they are effectively saying they agree to support the governments geopolitical agenda.

    So no, if you dont support the war, don't support the troops. I certainly would appreciate it more than being pondered to and smiled at while at the same time you walk the picket line protesting the money that goes into giving our troops what they need to fight the war.
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    Re: Should We Always Support the Troops?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    I am in the military, and I can tell you, that if you do not support the war you should not pander to us. I do not want your support if you do not believe in what I am doing. The military is a volunteer force and its members believe in the path we are taking, otherwise they would not volunteer to join the military. Conflicts just don't start overnight. There generally is a common knowledge as to who our potential enemies are. And it generally is fairly easy to see who we will probably be in the next conflict with. So if a Soldier, Airmen or Marine joins the military they are effectively saying they agree to support the governments geopolitical agenda.

    So no, if you dont support the war, don't support the troops. I certainly would appreciate it more than being pondered to and smiled at while at the same time you walk the picket line protesting the money that goes into giving our troops what they need to fight the war.
    But, I would never believe in shorting the money for a war in which we were already engaged. That would not honor the troops at all, to put them in danger by not giving them everything they need. Yet, I would still be opposed to the war. Sorry, but I am still going to be grateful for your promise to do as my representatives see fit to order you to do, and your fulfillment of that promise. You can like it or not as you see fit
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