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    Should gas prices reflect the cost of war in the middle east?

    The US has engaged in several military conflicts in the middle east to stablilize oil production. The reasons for the conflicts in this region are disruptions to the world wide energy needs and the US has decided to dedicate a large amount of money and lives to the protection of these sources of oil.

    Should the cost of gas at the pump more directly reflect this burden that the American tax payer is taking? Meaning, should there be a greater tax on gasoline to offset the costs of these military actions?

    I know that some would like to argue about the reasons for these military actions, but I find it rather ridiculous to do so. If America is fighting in the middle east for the good of democracy, why would they ignore so many places that do not have oil but have humanitarian needs that are at least as urgent as they are in this region?

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    Re: Should gas prices reflect the cost of war in the middle east?

    The US is not in the mideast to stabilize oil.




    Quote Originally Posted by Slateriesling View Post
    I know that some would like to argue about the reasons for these military actions, but I find it rather ridiculous to do so. If America is fighting in the middle east for the good of democracy, why would they ignore so many places that do not have oil but have humanitarian needs that are at least as urgent as they are in this region?
    Ah, yes, the old "if we're so perfect then why don't we do EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME" argument. A classic, if pitifully informed and thought out.

    1. We're not perfect.
    2. We cannot possibly do everything at the same time; thus, we consider overarching factors and have priorities.

    Why do you hate priorities?
    Last edited by ecofarm; 03-02-13 at 04:49 PM.

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    Re: Should gas prices reflect the cost of war in the middle east?

    Invent a "problem", define a "solution" and then ask if we agree with either? No, thank you.
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    Re: Should gas prices reflect the cost of war in the middle east?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slateriesling View Post
    The US has engaged in several military conflicts in the middle east to stablilize oil production. The reasons for the conflicts in this region are disruptions to the world wide energy needs and the US has decided to dedicate a large amount of money and lives to the protection of these sources of oil.

    Should the cost of gas at the pump more directly reflect this burden that the American tax payer is taking? Meaning, should there be a greater tax on gasoline to offset the costs of these military actions?

    I know that some would like to argue about the reasons for these military actions, but I find it rather ridiculous to do so. If America is fighting in the middle east for the good of democracy, why would they ignore so many places that do not have oil but have humanitarian needs that are at least as urgent as they are in this region?
    Actually, a punitive tax should be placed upon the Energy Corporations that profit handsomely from this OIL. ExxonMobil, Chevron, BP, Total, etc. and the largest distributors and largest beneficiaries of these ill-gotten natural resource access. Coincidentally, they are also really big Congressional lobbyists. Probably just a hugely coinky dink circumstance, don't you think?

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    Re: Should gas prices reflect the cost of war in the middle east?

    Sure and food should be taxed to pay for all of the war on poverty.

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    Re: Should gas prices reflect the cost of war in the middle east?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The US is not in the mideast to stabilize oil.
    Why are we fighting there?

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    Re: Should gas prices reflect the cost of war in the middle east?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Invent a "problem", define a "solution" and then ask if we agree with either? No, thank you.
    So, our bloated defence budget is not a problem?

    I never suggested that a greater tax on gas was a solution. I simply asked if it is right that the cost of these military actions (note I did not use the word "war") be passed on to the commodity that is being protected by these actions.

    Why don't the people that believe in capitalism believe that the cost of something should reflect all of the costs of that commodity. The principle of capitalism is that something should reflect its cost and the public gets to decide if it is worth the cost. By hiding some of the cost of something there is no capitalism.

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    Re: Should gas prices reflect the cost of war in the middle east?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slateriesling View Post
    Why are we fighting there?
    Well, if you don't know then it must be oil!

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    Re: Should gas prices reflect the cost of war in the middle east?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Well, if you don't know then it must be oil!
    I agree, if you don't know then it must be oil.

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    Re: Should gas prices reflect the cost of war in the middle east?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slateriesling View Post
    So, our bloated defence budget is not a problem?

    I never suggested that a greater tax on gas was a solution. I simply asked if it is right that the cost of these military actions (note I did not use the word "war") be passed on to the commodity that is being protected by these actions.

    Why don't the people that believe in capitalism believe that the cost of something should reflect all of the costs of that commodity. The principle of capitalism is that something should reflect its cost and the public gets to decide if it is worth the cost. By hiding some of the cost of something there is no capitalism.
    The commodity that our military protects is our basic freedom. Defense is a basic federal Constitutional power. I agree that our defense budget is bloated yet adding taxation to support ANY gov't waste insane. Perhaps we should first cut those federal expenses not backed up by ANY Constititutional federal power at all, like education and income redistribution via some 70+ income based federal social programs.
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