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Leaving NKorea, Rodman calls Kims 'great leaders'

How does this affect your image of Kim Jong Un

  • He's a DEMON because the USA press say so.

    Votes: 2 33.3%

  • He's a DEMON because of his actions. Name actions.

    Votes: 4 66.7%

  • He's just a regular guy that needs a good PR agent in the USA.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • We attacked his Country and he needs to defend agianst the USA.

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • Total voters
    6
  • Poll closed .
SMTA said:
Name one famous American sportsperson, who visited like Rodman, made nasty comments, and was then jailed.

I'll wait.
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Why are you asking me to substantiate your red herring? Isn't it more honest to substantiate my actual argument? I'll wait for that question.
 
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Surtr said:
Yes, it's inaccurate through gross oversimplification of some very complex issues.
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Move along now. This is way too complicated. We'll handle this.
 
SMTA said:
Name one famous American sportsperson, who visited like Rodman, made nasty comments, and was then jailed.

I'll wait.
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They would never jail any famous American because they understand that it would severely damage their image and only further highlight the atrocities they openly are involved in. They are not in the business of creating negative press, they are in the business in creating positive propaganda. Which is why, instead of jailing American celebrities, they wine and dine them because they understand that they will get positive press if they are able to get that image out.
 
SMTA said:
Name one famous American sportsperson, who visited like Rodman, made nasty comments, and was then jailed.

I'll wait.
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Not to many make such visits with the intent of insulting the leadership. Because if they did get jailed for such, it wouldn't surprise anyone.
 
Capster78 said:
They would never jail any famous American because they understand that it would severely damage their image and only further highlight the atrocities they openly are involved in. They are not in the business of creating negative press, they are in the business in creating positive propaganda. Which is why, instead of jailing American celebrities, they wine and dine them because they understand that they will get positive press if they are able to get that image out.
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Lol @ nk not creating negative press. This is a country that kidnapped a director and actress to make a ****ty Godzilla rip-off
 
Originally Posted by DaveFagan

"Let's see now, torture, Guantanamo, kangaroo courts are OK. We only invaded North Korea once so they shouldn't be building weapons to defend from us just because we cover the Southern half of their penninsula like a blanket. We attack people without 'Nukes', like Vietnam, Granada, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Nicaragua(contras), Panama, and the list goes on, but we don't attack countries with nukes. Not so subliminal message, get y'all some nukes, mos' scratchee! It's not Iran that has helped NKorea get its' Nukes working, but our great ally Pakistan and their uber hero A. Q. Khan. That's the same A. Q. Khan that offered Libya help for its' discontinued Nuke program and look what happened to Libya. Is there a message here?"

Surtr said:
Can't tell if serious. Are you really trying to make a case for the US being worse than North Korea?
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My post is reasonably exact truth. It is likely the way much of the world sees this issue. It is certainly the perspective from North Korea. If any of the facts are in error, provide links to disprove them. Not opinions.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
Lol @ nk not creating negative press. This is a country that kidnapped a director and actress to make a ****ty Godzilla rip-off
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Yes, but that did not generate negative press internationally at the time because no one really cared about a director or an actress from South Korea. If they were to kidnap a Director or an Actress from America, there would be more international visibility.
 
"Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles

Lol @ nk not creating negative press. This is a country that kidnapped a director and actress to make a ****ty Godzilla rip-off"

Capster78 said:
Yes, but that did not generate negative press internationally at the time because no one really cared about a director or an actress from South Korea. If they were to kidnap a Director or an Actress from America, there would be more international visibility.
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Perhpas it was just a rendition of the director and actress. How could that be referred to as kidnapping? Rendition was legal?? in the USA until quite recently, apparently.
 
Capster78 said:
Yes, but that did not generate negative press internationally at the time because no one really cared about a director or an actress from South Korea. If they were to kidnap a Director or an Actress from America, there would be more international visibility.
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Ignoring the fact that you likely know **** all about the public reaction to these kidnappings back in the 70's, the fact remains that the popular perception of NK is that it's a country of schizophrenics which is able to churn out bad PR like it was a business
 
DaveFagan said:
Perhpas it was just a rendition of the director and actress. How could that be referred to as kidnapping? Rendition was legal?? in the USA until quite recently, apparently.
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they were kidnapped specifically to make films. We conduct renditions for state security reasons. Sure, take issue with the later, just don't try and compare it to a dictator kidnapping people to flush out his hollywood fetish
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
Not to many make such visits with the intent of insulting the leadership. Because if they did get jailed for such, it wouldn't surprise anyone.
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Yes, because we all know that the N Koreans are completely nuts.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Why are you asking me to substantiate your red herring? Isn't it more honest to substantiate my actual argument? I'll wait for that question.
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Bwaahaahaa!

Exactly what I thought.....nothingness.

Bwaahaahaa!
 
I don't know alot about Rodman.

But if I was in his position, I might have done the same thing for two reasons.

1) Someone from the US giving Kim Jong Un a compliment such as this may foster marginally better relations between North Korea and the United States. Dealing with North Korea is no picnic and things like this can go a long way in the short term.

2) It undermines the North Korean Governments propaganda about the United States, if someone from the United States says something like this, given that North Koreas population is taught from Birth that the US is a bunch of blood thirsty murderers whose sole purpose in life is to destroy their "Socialist Utopia".

Now I can't say for sure what his motivation was for saying what he said... I can only say what my motivation would be for saying the same thing.

At the same time I've actually looked into going to North Korea with a government sanctioned tour company out of Beijing run by British Expats, did alot of research into it and one of the things is... if you do visit North Korea you are literally required to pay homage to the leaders of the country, that means bowing at their statues, presenting flowers before their statues and saying a word or two.

One of the things they stress is, if you are not willing to do these things do not enter the country.
 
he went further than offering basic praise for the guy
 
Rodman helped write the book on modern crazy. He goes to a nation with a horrible human rights record and declares their "Dear Leader" to be a cool guy. Brilliant. I'll listen to Rodman's opinions regarding basketball.
 
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That Rodman and the Kims get along is no surprise to me. Birds of a feather and all.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Rodman helped write the book on modern crazy. He goes to a nation with a horrible human rights record and declares their "Dear Leader" to be a cool guy. Brilliant. I'll listen to Rodman's opinions regarding basketball.
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Yeah, but he got to hulk smash madonna in her prime.
 
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