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    America land of the glutinous

    When I was a kid in the 50s everyone except movie stars and Randolph Hearst lived in modest homes, drove modest cars and took modest vacations. Mom and dad loaded all 4 of us kids in the station wagon with the 16 ft Terry behind us and we went camping. Now you see people in 200K motor homes "camping". Houses are now huge and having a maid to clean it and a gardener to mow the lawn is common. Kids wear $200.00 tennis shoes, I wore PF Fliers. I could go on and on and give example after example but I think you get the point. IMO opinion Americans have become greedy, spoiled,voracious, rapacious consumers and I get sick of hearing people whine about not having enough. We have developed an entitlement mentality, "I am an American and I deserve to have everything I want". Makes me sick.

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    Re: America land of the glutinous

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    When I was a kid in the 50s everyone except movie stars and Randolph Hearst lived in modest homes, drove modest cars and took modest vacations. Mom and dad loaded all 4 of us kids in the station wagon with the 16 ft Terry behind us and we went camping. Now you see people in 200K motor homes "camping". Houses are now huge and having a maid to clean it and a gardener to mow the lawn is common. Kids wear $200.00 tennis shoes, I wore PF Fliers. I could go on and on and give example after example but I think you get the point. IMO opinion Americans have become greedy, spoiled,voracious, rapacious consumers and I get sick of hearing people whine about not having enough. We have developed an entitlement mentality, "I am an American and I deserve to have everything I want". Makes me sick.
    I don't know anyone who lives in a huge home, has a maid and a gardener, with kids wearing $200.00 shoes . . . and on and on.

    Even my sister doesn't seem to quite cut your view of excessive-Americanism though she does have a part time nanny - they're fastracking their mortgage and don't have auto payments anymore, no massive debt. . . so she's on top of **** with one income.

    Just who in the hell are you talking about? Where exactly are you living in Idaho that has these lush living standards and really - maybe it's just a small area? Are you living in the posh hills or something?

    You know - in my business research I learned that one of the fasted growing retail segment is the resale arena. Over the last 10 years with department and related resale sales dropping the resale industry itself is gaining. Clothing, especially - all items. From children's bedding to furniture, etc. People's debts are decreasing, savings are adding up. Even then - the average American is tight on cash and definitely mowing their own lawns *maybe* - because lawn equipment sales are down yet so are the number of lawn care businesses.
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    Re: America land of the glutinous

    You are correct.

    We are all spoiled-myself included! I require satelite tv or cable tv,

    Car and house with working AC .

    YES we're all spoiled!

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    Re: America land of the glutinous

    Part of it is inflation. Part of it is the rampant consumerism that started exactly from those 50's kids when they started making lots of money in the 70's and 80's. That's where the idea that greed is good came from. That's where Wall Street became more important than Main Street. That's where the idea that "he who dies with the most toys wins" came from.

    Kids right now are not nearly as bad as you think, and the ones that are... they're merely emulating their parents.
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    Re: America land of the glutinous

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I don't know anyone who lives in a huge home, has a maid and a gardener, with kids wearing $200.00 shoes . . . and on and on.

    Even my sister doesn't seem to quite cut your view of excessive-Americanism though she does have a part time nanny - they're fastracking their mortgage and don't have auto payments anymore, no massive debt. . . so she's on top of **** with one income.

    Just who in the hell are you talking about? Where exactly are you living in Idaho that has these lush living standards and really - maybe it's just a small area? Are you living in the posh hills or something?

    You know - in my business research I learned that one of the fasted growing retail segment is the resale arena. Over the last 10 years with department and related resale sales dropping the resale industry itself is gaining. Clothing, especially - all items. From children's bedding to furniture, etc. People's debts are decreasing, savings are adding up. Even then - the average American is tight on cash and definitely mowing their own lawns *maybe* - because lawn equipment sales are down yet so are the number of lawn care businesses.
    This recession has curbed enthusiasm I agree.

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    Re: America land of the glutinous

    Personally, I think since about 1890, people have been spoiled. It all started to go downhill once they had Montgomery Ward distribution!
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    Re: America land of the glutinous

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Part of it is inflation. Part of it is the rampant consumerism that started exactly from those 50's kids when they started making lots of money in the 70's and 80's. That's where the idea that greed is good came from. That's where Wall Street became more important than Main Street. That's where the idea that "he who dies with the most toys wins" came from.

    Kids right now are not nearly as bad as you think, and the ones that are... they're merely emulating their parents.

    It's not even bad at all. We've had rapid consumerism many times before in our history, and indeed, yes, the exact same complaints were raised.
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    Re: America land of the glutinous

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    When I was a kid in the 50s everyone except movie stars and Randolph Hearst lived in modest homes, drove modest cars and took modest vacations. Mom and dad loaded all 4 of us kids in the station wagon with the 16 ft Terry behind us and we went camping. Now you see people in 200K motor homes "camping". Houses are now huge and having a maid to clean it and a gardener to mow the lawn is common. Kids wear $200.00 tennis shoes, I wore PF Fliers. I could go on and on and give example after example but I think you get the point. IMO opinion Americans have become greedy, spoiled,voracious, rapacious consumers and I get sick of hearing people whine about not having enough. We have developed an entitlement mentality, "I am an American and I deserve to have everything I want". Makes me sick.
    I was not around in the 50's - but I guarantee you people were just as greedy then as they are now.

    But technology has made things that were unthinkable to own then, now within the budget of almsot everyone.

    Plus, America had virtually free run of the world for about 25 years. Every major power was either destroyed, communist or flat broke after ww2 - except America (who made TONS of money off the war).

    And lately - since 1971 and the end of Bretton Woods - America has grown through massive debt and being able to print the world's reserve currency whenever she wants and how ever much she wants.

    But it is all coming to an end as the debt bubble is reaching a climax.

    When it blows? I know not.

    But when it pops - the U.S. standard of living will be far less then it is now.

    Still decent - but much more modest then today.

    It will be countries like Canada that will zoom past America in GDP per capita...countries that have huge natural resources and small populations to look after. The commodity haves will get rich selling to the commodity have nots - assuming the have nots don't conquer the haves.
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    Re: America land of the glutinous

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    When I was a kid in the 50s everyone except movie stars and Randolph Hearst lived in modest homes, drove modest cars and took modest vacations. Mom and dad loaded all 4 of us kids in the station wagon with the 16 ft Terry behind us and we went camping. Now you see people in 200K motor homes "camping". Houses are now huge and having a maid to clean it and a gardener to mow the lawn is common. Kids wear $200.00 tennis shoes, I wore PF Fliers. I could go on and on and give example after example but I think you get the point. IMO opinion Americans have become greedy, spoiled,voracious, rapacious consumers and I get sick of hearing people whine about not having enough. We have developed an entitlement mentality, "I am an American and I deserve to have everything I want". Makes me sick.

    I don't see that kind of wealth for the majority but I do see $100 - $150 sneakers. People will buy outrageous personal items before paying the bills on necessities. When I saw the cost of the average, smart phone plan for a small family I about fell over. It was in the thousands of dollars in some cases.

    Though I came along a little later than you I do remember we didn't have so many extras, especially electronics like they have today. We were alright on basics and did a lot more outdoor activity with biking, swimming, sports, fishing, beach visits, playing in the woods, throwing frisbee and football, etc. But now days I can't buy Xmas gifts for family because they have everything, except real expensive stuff. It is different.
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    Re: America land of the glutinous

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I don't know anyone who lives in a huge home, has a maid and a gardener, with kids wearing $200.00 shoes . . . and on and on.

    Even my sister doesn't seem to quite cut your view of excessive-Americanism though she does have a part time nanny - they're fastracking their mortgage and don't have auto payments anymore, no massive debt. . . so she's on top of **** with one income.

    Just who in the hell are you talking about? Where exactly are you living in Idaho that has these lush living standards and really - maybe it's just a small area? Are you living in the posh hills or something?

    You know - in my business research I learned that one of the fasted growing retail segment is the resale arena. Over the last 10 years with department and related resale sales dropping the resale industry itself is gaining. Clothing, especially - all items. From children's bedding to furniture, etc. People's debts are decreasing, savings are adding up. Even then - the average American is tight on cash and definitely mowing their own lawns *maybe* - because lawn equipment sales are down yet so are the number of lawn care businesses.
    Bold: Thats what I'd like to know. I live in Idaho and I certainly haven't seen this in my area....
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